May we have quick clarification regarding the White Ravens (earrings)?

[Zezlar]

Honestly, believing they will be obtainable in ARR is akin to those people believing that those seals weren't going to be used for relic weapons back when. It's common sense, and it's been stated many times over. Nael deus Darnus is an exclusive fight to 1.0, why should they reward people in 2.0 who didn't take the time to experience the "once in a lifetime" opportunity? Relics or Soon to be unobtainable earrings. Time for a priority check.

What's next, free dalamud horns in ARR too? IT COULD HAPPEN YO!

[Shougun]

Honestly, believing they will be obtainable in ARR is akin to those people believing that those seals weren't going to be used for relic weapons back when. It's common sense, and it's been stated many times over. Nael deus Darnus is an exclusive fight to 1.0, why should they reward people in 2.0 who didn't take the time to experience the "once in a lifetime" opportunity? Relics or Soon to be unobtainable earrings. Time for a priority check.

No. Common sense would be that you understand the possibility that SE would revive a boss (like they have done in every FF game). And that it is supported by allusions to a particularly famous reviving boss - and even further supported by similar story nuances of that boss and this one as well as subtle precedence set by primals.

Relics are 100% for sure going to be in 2.0 obtainable not sure how you related those.

I dont think anyone says for 100% sure he will be there, but it is not 100% sure he will not be there. (Until rep/dev response at least). Furthermore just because Nael is present doesnt mean the earing will be - nor does it mean they will not be present even if Nael is not.

[Zezlar]

No. Common sense would be that you understand the possibility that SE would revive a boss (like they have done in every FF game). And that it is supported by allusions to a particularly famous reviving boss - and even further supported by similar nuances of that boss and this one as well as subtle precedence set by primals.

Relics are 100% for sure going to be in 2.0 obtainable not sure how you related those.

I dont think anyone says for 100% sure he will be there, but it is not 100% sure he will not be there. (Until rep/dev response at least).

Yeah, they do revive the bosses. I fully expect to see Nael make a come-back in some fashion, but think to yourself. Why would they give out the very item that is the ONLY incentive for the current version fight. It doesn't make any sense.

Also in regards to the seal comment. Back before Relics were "About" to be introduced when Hamlet was released. The primal seals were found, and Rowena specifically mentioned that they would be used to obtain something. and yet, we had dozens of threads speculating they weren't for the quest.

I'm not posting this to be an ass. To me this is a common sense thing. To award the reward for the ultimate boss to someone in ARR who chose to not do it when it was available as a one time thing is a slap in the face to anyone who did it.

[Shougun]

Yeah, they do revive the bosses. I fully expect to see Nael make a come-back in some fashion, but think to yourself. Why would they give out the very item that is the ONLY incentive for the current version fight. It doesn't make any sense.

Also in regards to the seal comment. Back before Relics were "About" to be introduced when Hamlet was released. The primal seals were found, and Rowena specifically mentioned that they would be used to obtain something. and yet, we had dozens of threads speculating they weren't for the quest.

I'm not posting this to be an ass. To me this is a common sense thing. To award the reward for the ultimate boss to someone in ARR who chose to not do it when it was available as a one time thing is a slap in the face to anyone who did it.

For the white ravens I am less sure - though nothing really says they can't. We dont know 100%. However I feel SE has either done a lot of alluding and foreshadowing on accident or they really intend to bring him forth again.

Sephiroth -> Nael
Crazy -> Crazy
A part of evil organization Shinra -> A part of evil organization Garlean
Leaves group -> Leaves group
Calls down meteor -> Calls down meteor
Mother is a meteor rock, so sephiroth is part embeded -> Nael says he will embed himself in the meteor if he has to
Wants to destroy everything -> also wants to destroy everything
Thinks he is doing something good by killing -> funny he does too
cant stop the meteor -> cant stop the meteor
Gods (gaia) save the world from the meteor -> gods save you from the meteor
Muisc and some iconic scenes -> Similar music and iconic scenes

Revives multiple times -> probably going to as well


As for the White Ravens, Dzian has the best argument for them being in 2.0. Only items removed are related to Umbral right? Well the Hard mode fight isnt related. Just like the hard mode primal fights.