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    I'd like to see "detailed" mode on items where when it says +20 strength in () it also says
    "+5 attack damage, +3% shield block rate".

    Having many different types of modifiers (strength, block rate, intelligence. bla bla bla) is cool for varied items and preferences, but I shouldn't have to reverse engineer every patch what a stat does. Just freaking tell me lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    I'd like to see "detailed" mode on items where when it says +20 strength in () it also says
    "+5 attack damage, +3% shield block rate".

    Having many different types of modifiers (strength, block rate, intelligence. bla bla bla) is cool for varied items and preferences, but I shouldn't have to reverse engineer every patch what a stat does. Just freaking tell me lol.
    They do tell you what it does, the only issue was the stat system in this game is just so...bad and poorly formulated (re all remember protect and shell doing jack shit) that they had to keep tooling around with it. Like in FFXI they told you what stats did just like they did with XIV and only ever touched the formulas for specific weapon types, i.e 1hand or 2hand however, but with XIV since you need at least 10 million of a stat to feel a difference, it always seemed like something was off.

    Higher base stat means equally higher need of modifiers which they changed around to try to make it matter more and make it easier for the player. It never works out. So hopefully the 1:1 change in ARR will solve all that problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    So hopefully the 1:1 change in ARR will solve all that problem.
    This is why I think the changes will just achieve a greater balance of base stats to derived stats, rather than a complete stat overhaul.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    They do tell you what it does, the only issue was the stat system in this game is just so...bad and poorly formulated (re all remember protect and shell doing jack shit) that they had to keep tooling around with it. Like in FFXI they told you what stats did just like they did with XIV and only ever touched the formulas for specific weapon types, i.e 1hand or 2hand however, but with XIV since you need at least 10 million of a stat to feel a difference, it always seemed like something was off.

    Higher base stat means equally higher need of modifiers which they changed around to try to make it matter more and make it easier for the player. It never works out. So hopefully the 1:1 change in ARR will solve all that problem.
    I meant in exact context.

    Like if I have 40000 strength, adding 4 more will do nothing as I hit the cap looooong ago.

    So the item would show in context what that did to your character.

    Because yes they have a little tooltip you can hover your mouse over stats in some places - thats not helpful to knowing what it is really doing. There is a lot of behind the scenes math you have to whip out yourself.

    Really hopeful to understand the relation between mind and healing potency, or intelligence and magic attack power.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    There is a lot of behind the scenes math you have to whip out yourself.
    This is the reason I like RPGs, it would suck to me if every single aspect were revealed. Then it's just paint by numbers.

    I prefer trial and error until I get things just rght. It's the same reason I don't watch strategy videos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Molly_Millions View Post
    This is the reason I like RPGs, it would suck to me if every single aspect were revealed. Then it's just paint by numbers.
    Eh, I dont think having to do theory(on stats)craft is required for an rpg. I'd prefer I knew which one was better for my preference. Ok so this intelligence will make me do X but these other direct stats are more effective at this X, and when I combine all of them together - oh look I really what this combination.

    Otherwise players just read someones 20 hour test and calculus to reverse engineer formulas, which is the same thing as above just a bigger pia. My preference though.
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