Bullying on FFXIV

[TnelisPotencia]

@ stral i understand ignoring someone, but what you said is more along the lines of running away from your problems. you were in a linkshell that made fun of you? seems like not my business, but why not tell them to stop ? random people givin u crap for wahtever reason they want is messed up, you got your options sure, but i stand firm if you just run away from problems most the time, they will catch back up to you. im seeing some sense that if someone doesnt like how u act in a pt (pulling, getting/losing hate or whatver makes some person in the pt mad), but its like if someone bullies you you use that as a free chance to not deal with your own problems too. idk if that all makes sense but i think bullying is wrong but constructive criticism should also not be ignored or taken badly when given in non bully way. also on the other hand, sometimes.....
Hater gunna hate.

[strallaalaa]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shroud_of_Turin lol
but this ain't a religious thread it will get locked that way.(and if the bully haters had there way then these mods would be locking way more threads, fact as time goes more and more threads, you get banned for rediculous stuff in gw2, can you imagine in 10years or longer what it will be like?) talk about trying to cover the world in nerf foam for just the few.

but your right the id thing is bad idea cause of people like you, it would still never do anything ..most have gotten beaten for doing something, chances are they are still doing it. hell i been hit by cops while trying to cop some weed, i still smoke weed. lol. violence isn't the way to fix things even though your i probably would want to kick the living crap out of lots of people just cause it would be easier that way. it takes a bigger person to not fight, and i think that is what we need more in this world. granted we on a thread bout bullies and they do the beating, we are talking about the internet there is no physical violence. we are complaining about emotions and fellings here.

maybe the only thing that needs to change is a little box to click b4 logging onto the web saying, your emotions are your own and you might have your emotions hurt, log in on your own discretion. also most people doing the trolling are laughing there butts off, they think it is funny. it has nothing to do with there lives, chances are they are just bored and sitting there with a bunch of friends thinking they are funny. guess you not seen some chat rooms back in days of aol, little kids troll into them just to make fun, its like a prank phone call to them. and there is lots of teens in these games.

but this whole thread started over someone seeing another person call another a bad player, that isn't bullying to me. it does hurt feelings and can be annoying but chances are you could lol scientifically take a poll from everyone on the server and show that yes the dude sucked eggs. but he could of been "nicer" that is all, i never call anyone on sucking. most people just leave, or give bs lies like wife agro ...need to put my baby to bed or whatever else ...then never need to play with them again. fact i always have people send behind the scene tells sayign wtf is up with the tank or the whm ..why they not do this or is he the sucks or is it just me? least he knows he should practice more and it's not behind the back like some. leaving the dude to suck for long time till he gets to the bully lmao.

and again i'm not condoning bully'ing ...i am arguing the side that fighting bullies makes you a bully. that the only way to remove them from your world is by taking away a piece of what makes us ..us. and i rather see bullies on this planet then lose a piece of myself. bullies can be handled, in one form or another, they know there crap stinks and there is plenty anyone can to not be standing around his stench.

edit, on TnelisPotencia question, i didn't think of it as running, most higher level shells only seem to have 8-10 really active players that i would consider a static. if there isn't room in that static for endgame stuff then your just a pug in your own linkshell that will take runs when it becomes farm runs and tactics are made. i was really already looking for a new shell, but it was easier for me to drop the shell b4 i found a replacement cause of this. rather then keep it as a social. (wasn't cause i suck either, just how it was, and i don't enjoy vent, so it can be rather hard to find a good team that doesn't use it these days)

[Aethelinda]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shroud_of_Turin

but this whole thread started over someone seeing another person call another a bad player, that isn't bullying to me. it does hurt feelings and can be annoying but chances are you could lol scientifically take a poll from everyone on the server and show that yes the dude sucked eggs.

Here is where you wrong. I didn't started this post because of someone calling someone a bad player. That's not harassing, that's just being a jerk and those you can just ignore them and move on. I started this thread because someone was pointed out by a rumor that was spreading because of people like him. Constructive criticism or just calling a player a bad player it is not considered harassment unless you take it to the extreme like shouting, /tells, mpk and what not. We have to keep in mind that this is a sensible topic. I will not start something like this just for kid stuff or things that could be ignore with no problems. This person was being accused of something that true or not , the bully got no right of doing. You don't like someone? you ignore him and move on but some feeds from the weaker because again that's their only way to justify their existence in their game. They need to prove themselves worth something. Again this is not about an EMO moment but about a serious issue going on online and it should be taken in consideration.

This is not about physical bullying like some have already discussed in this thread. My thread is about cyber bullying not real life one. One thing they got in common is that depending on the situation it can hurt you as bad as a been bullied in real life. Not fun when you login in the game to find people shouting about you in the middle of a city or even people on /tells telling you what they heard about you. Peer pressure is also present in the game as I said. There is a reputation we play by just as in real life. You build a bad one and it will take time for people to forget. Trust me a bad reputation can make your play time a nightmare. You will not get invite it to any party, people will reject you and you will have to depend on the people that either don't care about the issue or they don't know you. Not fun when you think about it.

[strallaalaa]

ok the biggest question for op then, what you want to do about the cyber bullying on the web?

[Aethelinda]

ok the biggest question for op then, what you want to do about the cyber bullying on the web?

Right now? Awareness. There is not much that can be done but make people aware that there are some doing these type of things. Oh and btw let me not be so general about cyber bullying because I just want to focus in the game area. Just wanted to talk about bullies in FFXIV. At this moment, Fragile , there is not much that we can do but brainstorm on what could be done and what not. It is just a topic to debate on and maybe even come up with a better strategy to deal with them. Hate the fact that many are been affected and many more will in the future. This is unavoidable but for sure the Blacklist I feel it is not enough sometimes. Enough for someone that will stop there but again there are some that will not stop there.

[auritribe]

Right now? Awareness. There is not much that can be done but make people aware that there are some doing these type of things. Oh and btw let me not be so general about cyber bullying because I just want to focus in the game area. Just wanted to talk about bullies in FFXIV. At this moment, Fragile , there is not much that we can do but brainstorm on what could be done and what not. It is just a topic to debate on and maybe even come up with a better strategy to deal with them. Hate the fact that many are been affected and many more will in the future. This is unavoidable but for sure the Blacklist I feel it is not enough sometimes. Enough for someone that will stop there but again there are some that will not stop there.

Awareness isn't enough.

There really is only one solution to cyber bullying.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4l1_8wefR7c

I'm just saying what everyone else already knows and doesn't want to say. Don't act like its not true.

[Risae]

Whats wrong with bullying in an MMO? I'm doing it all the time. It's so much fun to see the players freak out.
Always worth a laugh.

[Huginn]

Although he likes apple jack ;x not sure how that makes me feel

I'm glad someone made a post like this. Because bullying is wrong!

Please stop bullying people just because they enjoy a television series that is not aimed at their demographic. when you do things like denegrate people because of their likes, you make them bad people, and it becomes OK to do bad things to them. Bullying is bullying, even if you think that you arent really bullying someone. We should use the police power of government to forcible make people watch Oprah so tha they can all understand what bullying does. then we can watch the videos that glorify the victims of bullying. this will end bullying and not at all cause an increase in the desire for people, especially children to want to be the victims of bullying and actually seek out people to in order to be abused. No one who would watch the oprah winfrey show, by force, would think to go to an online sexual offender database to find someone who will victimize them so that they can finally be the one thing that is exalted above all others in all of the propaganda that they have seen.
We can end bullying by just putting people in a camp, that they are not allowed to leave from until they are re-educated. and while they are there, we can make them work hard, because hard work will set you free. in fact, we should have a sign over the door that says just that, "Hard work will set you free," and anyone who refuses the re-education could just be... well, the police presence would rub out trouble.

TL;DR
even Fluttershy became a bully after she first learned to be more self confident. please do not bully people, even if it is because they watch My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic

[Aethelinda]

Whats wrong with bullying in an MMO? I'm doing it all the time. It's so much fun to see the players freak out.
Always worth a laugh.

errr.... no.

[Huginn]

I did not realize it when i was writing my last post, but, oops... Godwin's law: ACTIVATE!!!