New NMs

[Visch]

That's what they don't want though. They don't want anyone who doesn't play 8+ hours a day to get the super uber leet gear they spent any time getting.

If someone only has to run around collecting super mario coins to get the best gear then everyone will have it. It's not the point of the time spent, it's the rarity along with the commitment.

[Poipori]

If someone only has to run around collecting super mario coins to get the best gear then everyone will have it. It's not the point of the time spent, it's the rarity along with the commitment.

It does NOT need to be collecting currencies, another example would be putting a super tough HNM like absolute virtue as final boss of an instance(with 72hr reenter time, same like hnm respawn) which will drop the best gear in game.

That way, the best gear will still be rare even among the elites, and there will still be commitment needed to find ways and gear up to kill it.

Bottom line is, there is no need for mindless, time wasting camping of nm.

[Visch]

It does NOT need to be collecting currencies, another example would be putting a super tough HNM like absolute virtue as final boss of an instance(with 72hr reenter time, same like hnm respawn) which will drop the best gear in game.

That way, the best gear will still be rare even among the elites, and there will still be commitment needed to find ways and gear up to kill it.

Bottom line is, there is no need for mindless, time wasting camping of nm.

If it's killable anyone will be able to kill it which means the gear won't be limited and also there will be no competition.

[Poipori]

If it's killable anyone will be able to kill it which means the gear won't be limited and also there will be no competition.

I don't see how anyone will be able to kill it, if it is really difficult, it could even take hnmls months to kill it.
Also, if there is a reeenter time of 72hr or once a week, the items drop by the boss WILL be rare.

This kind of competition is more revelant, it is the competition of player's skill and gearset trying to defeat a super hard boss.

What kind of competition does camping nm offer? competition of whose internet ping is the best? or who is the luckiest? or who don't need to sleep? it makes no sense.

[Visch]

I don't see how anyone will be able to kill it, if it is really difficult, it could even take hnmls months to kill it.
Also, if there is a reeenter time of 72hr or once a week, the items drop by the boss WILL be rare.

Difficulty is no factor. If you can kill it you can kill it again. It's not rare no matter what because everyone is killing it. Not 1 kill every 24 hours. 1 kill for every LS every 72 hours is a lot more added up.

[Arcell]

Difficulty is no factor. If you can kill it you can kill it again. It's not rare no matter what because everyone is killing it. Not 1 kill every 24 hours. 1 kill for every LS every 72 hours is a lot more added up.

So you don't want anything to be hard, you just don't want other people to have the gear you do? Given enough time a vast majority of people will have it anyway, deal with it.

[Visch]

So you don't want anything to be hard, you just don't want other people to have the gear you do? Given enough time a vast majority of people will have it anyway, deal with it.

No they won't. KB was out forever. Barely anyone had D rings.

If an LS can kill something once they can kill it again. I'm not saying it should be easy, I'm saying difficulty does not determine rarity. If it's instanced that means it will be less rare. Please read.

[Poipori]

Difficulty is no factor. If you can kill it you can kill it again. It's not rare no matter what because everyone is killing it. Not 1 kill every 24 hours. 1 kill for every LS every 72 hours is a lot more added up.

There are really other ways of making items rare, don't just limit to thinking that camping nm is the sole solution.

Take EQ2 for example, there are special items being awarded to the first kill of an NM in the server, there is only 1 of that item exist in the entire server.

Now that promotes healthy competition, it lets guilds compete with each other to see who has the best skill in game.

This is just one example, there are many other ways of making things rare, really.

Do you really enjoy staring at the screen, waiting for pop that much?

[Peregrine]

Do you really enjoy staring at the screen, waiting for pop that much?

Sad thing is, they really do. Anything that they can keep most people from trying, they enjoy.

[Visch]

Sad thing is, they really do. Anything that they can keep most people from trying, they enjoy.

Try editing posts, not replying twice in a row please.

Also, your LS is going to be having a hard time enjoying anything with the new 8 person party limit. I have fraps on don't worry!

But back on subject. It's not about being unfair to casual players, it's about being fair to everyone and making a game that will last instead of being nothing but spoon-fed content.

Take EQ2 for example, there are special items being awarded to the first kill of an NM in the server, there is only 1 of that item exist in the entire server.

Now that is a little too crazy! JPs would have all of them :P

Lol just imagine the rage that these guys will have if they are.

The game really needs those NMs like Leaping Lizzy and Valkrum Emperor. It seems so empty with out them.