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    Its every 21-24, and its still not the fact that it can spawn every 21-24hrs, its keeping the gear rare, it needs to be fairly hard to kill, not pop that often, and low drop-rates on really good drops, if the whole server can get the item in a month its not worth puting in the game.

    I could just imagine having the HNM's in 11 at 1hr respawns.

    [Fafnir just dies]
    /l (Leader) well... everyone but you in ls has ridill so you can lot it.
    /l (Random guy) well... my inv is full... should i drop a rainbow cloth for it?
    /l (Leader) na.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poipori View Post
    What is wrong with making content that allow normal player to make a tiny step towards their goal each time they play? like collecting special coins. This will be the best of both worlds, where elites can get their item in like 1month, whereas normal player might take years to get, but at least we will eventually get there.
    That's what they don't want though. They don't want anyone who doesn't play 8+ hours a day to get the super uber leet gear they spent any time getting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moth View Post
    No, just people not in Perfection
    Don't forget, you offered to invite me to your LS at one point! ^_^

    I believe a casual player is defined more by what they do while they're in-game rather than how much time they spend playing. Plants vs. Zombies is considered a "casual" game, yet most people I know who play it do so for hours upon hours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeronlmo View Post
    The idea of having content for both honestly isnt hard, ff11 had that believe it or not, tones of content for casuals.

    The problem is when casuals think they should have the best gear in the game and have access to every hard-core event/gear, the argument is never-ending.

    Casuals like to say they want event that everyone can do with no real limitations like claiming, but how many casuals really did Ein or Salvage, given some did, but not many.
    The thing is most of the time, the so called best gear in the game will never be obtained by casual player because by the the time they get it, there is already newer content with a better best gear.

    Hence the so called current best gear will still be almost exclusive to the hardcores, so what is wrong with having content that casual can eventually get, albeit a very very long time.

    I think some of you are just too selfish to even allow the more casual people to at least get a shot at working towards the best gear.
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    I think this is quite ridiculous, asking for 24-hour NMs


    Everyone finds it incredibly easy to forget the fact that Dynamis Lord Loot was harder to Acquire than most every 24 hour HNM, HQ Version or not.


    Dynamis Lord loot wasn't hard to acquire because it was on a random ass spawn timer, in fact you could challenge him any time you wanted to. But it really required a lot of work to get to him, and once you reached him it was pretty challenging to defeat him, especially as a solo LS who could only pull maybe ~40 members max in your Dynamis.




    I would LOVE Content to match this movement, Along with the entire Sea system, Where you find items to pop first tier, who drop second tier pop items etc.

    Or just do Dungeons, Aion took an interesting approach where sometimes when you ran a dungeon the "HQ" Version of a boss would spawn. I thought that was extremely clever and a cool mix of the FFXI System and the WoW Dungeon system.




    There are many routes to take for exciting new content, and 24-hour highly contest pop NMs are a thing of the past, and add almost nothing to gameplay.
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    Making something take all day to camp and wait for will go against the statement made when you select Start on the main menu.........
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcell View Post
    That's what they don't want though. They don't want anyone who doesn't play 8+ hours a day to get the super uber leet gear they spent any time getting.
    If someone only has to run around collecting super mario coins to get the best gear then everyone will have it. It's not the point of the time spent, it's the rarity along with the commitment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeronlmo View Post
    Its every 21-24, and its still not the fact that it can spawn every 21-24hrs, its keeping the gear rare, it needs to be fairly hard to kill, not pop that often, and low drop-rates on really good drops, if the whole server can get the item in a month its not worth puting in the game.

    I could just imagine having the HNM's in 11 at 1hr respawns.

    [Fafnir just dies]
    /l (Leader) well... everyone but you in ls has ridill so you can lot it.
    /l (Random guy) well... my inv is full... should i drop a rainbow cloth for it?
    /l (Leader) na.
    That's one way of looking at it, but you could look at it the other way, in that its fairly easy to get and they continue to release content, similar to how WoW does it.
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    Last edited by Jinko; 04-13-2011 at 04:48 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Visch View Post
    Limited spawns, limited drops for everyone on the server which increases rarity of its drops.
    Nope, its just about camping and botting.

    I suggested in some earlier post to have a NM that spawns only once in a week (random dayP, in a completely random location, with a VERY low drop rate.
    You can’t camp it, now that i would love!

    Setting alarmglock to compete with some bots??? been there, done that.
    no, thanks!
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    I consider casual people who plays to sight seeing and socialize.
    I consider hardcore people who plays efficiently.
    The time they put on the game as long as is not super-duper limited dont matter to me.If im having fun i can stay on for whole day when im off work sometimes.


    Quote Originally Posted by Randis View Post
    Nope, its just about camping and butting.

    I suggested in some earlier post to have a NM that spawns only once in a week (random dayP, in a completely random location, with a VERY low drop rate.
    You can’t camp it, now that i would love!

    Setting alarmglock to compete with some bots??? been there, done that.
    no, thanks!
    That is something i could live with , sounds fun, as long as they do spawn randomly somewhere and does not get tracked down to a few spawn locations.
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    Last edited by Zkieve; 04-13-2011 at 04:47 AM.

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