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    Quote Originally Posted by Junpei View Post
    I read it that are basically reducing everyone's money to fit the new economy.

    If you take your current gil count, and knock the last digit off, that's how much you'll have in ARR

    This isn't bad for anyone, regardless of how much money they have, because it happens to everyone simultaneously.

    If you had 10x more cash than another player before, you will still have it after. A world wide economy change like this isn't necessarily needed, but it does make the numbers smaller and easier for everyone to deal with.

    Its the difference between counting everything in pennies or pounds. except because Gil has no smaller derivative they are manually adjusting it, something easily done with a virtual currency.

    This is how I understand it as well and makes sense with what Reinheart posted above.

    If you have 300 mil, it becomes 30 mil.
    If you have 90 mil, it become 9 mil.

    Person 1 still has the same % more then person b.

    Everyone that thinks they just lop you off to 99 mil if your over 100 mil is dreaming. (think about it, how is that remotely fair lol)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meatdawg View Post
    This is how I understand it as well and makes sense with what Reinheart posted above.

    If you have 300 mil, it becomes 30 mil.
    If you have 90 mil, it become 9 mil.

    Person 1 still has the same % more then person b.

    Everyone that thinks they just lop you off to 99 mil if your over 100 mil is dreaming. (think about it, how is that remotely fair lol)

    It is of course harder to make 200 thousand back then it is to back 200 million.

    999,999,999 => 99,999,999 : : : lost 900,000,000
    999,999 => 99,999 : : : lost 900,000

    Perhaps I dont understand it, but it defintely looks like those who have more money will be effected more.

    They probably did this because they deemed those who had so much money did it in a way they thought was unfair.

    And at least from my understanding they never said they are reducing the price of items in 2.0. They just said they are reducing player money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    It is of course harder to make 200 thousand back then it is to back 200 million.

    999,999,999 => 99,999,999 : : : lost 900,000,000
    999,999 => 99,999 : : : lost 900,000

    Perhaps I dont understand it, but it defintely looks like those who have more money will be effected more.

    They probably did this because they deemed those who had so much money did it in a way they thought was unfair.

    And at least from my understanding they never said they are reducing the price of items in 2.0. They just said they are reducing player money.
    It is all relative though.

    Person 1 has 300 mil => 30 mil
    Person 2 has 90 mil => 9 mil

    Sure person 1 loses more money, but you have to think of it in %. Person 1 loses the same % of his cash as person 2. If 3x meld gears are selling on the Ah before at 24 mil, they will now be selling at 2.4 mil.

    The bigger question is how will npc'd items work. If I can sell something to a npc now for 24 gil, can i sell it after ARR for 24 gil still? This is where the exploit lies.

    Take my example here in a vacuum (assuming retainer space didn't matter)

    You should invest all your money into warped arrows @ 2 gil a piece and then sell them all back @ 1 gil a piece after ARR. This way you only lose half of your money and not 90%
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meatdawg View Post
    You should invest all your money into warped arrows @ 2 gil a piece and then sell them all back @ 1 gil a piece after ARR. This way you only lose half of your money and not 90%
    Where am I going to store many millions of arrows?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xenor View Post
    Where am I going to store many millions of arrows?
    I was just giving one example of how to "game" the system. Obviously you cant store that many arrows lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meatdawg View Post
    This is how I understand it as well and makes sense with what Reinheart posted above.

    If you have 300 mil, it becomes 30 mil.
    If you have 90 mil, it become 9 mil.

    Person 1 still has the same % more then person b.

    Everyone that thinks they just lop you off to 99 mil if your over 100 mil is dreaming. (think about it, how is that remotely fair lol)
    and you would be incorrect, because that is what they are doing, lowering the max, not changing how much gil everyone has.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kailea_Nagisa View Post
    and you would be incorrect, because that is what they are doing, lowering the max, not changing how much gil everyone has.
    You can hope that all you want, but you are incorrect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meatdawg View Post
    This is how I understand it as well and makes sense with what Reinheart posted above.

    If you have 300 mil, it becomes 30 mil.
    If you have 90 mil, it become 9 mil.

    Person 1 still has the same % more then person b.

    Everyone that thinks they just lop you off to 99 mil if your over 100 mil is dreaming. (think about it, how is that remotely fair lol)

    That's stupid. So my 500k gil now will become 50k gil in 2.0.....don't think so? They are removing the cap from 999,999,999 to 99,999,999... if you have 25million gil come 2.0 you are still gonna have you 25milllion gil... this only affects the super rich who are above the 99,999,999 limit they will lose money if they don't move it to another character.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rustyhagun View Post
    That's stupid. So my 500k gil now will become 50k gil in 2.0.....don't think so? They are removing the cap from 999,999,999 to 99,999,999... if you have 25million gil come 2.0 you are still gonna have you 25milllion gil... this only affects the super rich who are above the 99,999,999 limit they will lose money if they don't move it to another character.
    Why because it's fair? it effects everyone the same...

    In your world you keep all you have earned but those that have over 100 mil and earned it cant keep it? yeah you make much more sense.......

    In the translation it doesn't say reduce cap by 1 digit, it says reduce gil by 1 digit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meatdawg View Post
    Why because it's fair? it effects everyone the same...

    In your world you keep all you have earned but those that have over 100 mil and earned it cant keep it? yeah you make much more sense.......

    In the translation it doesn't say reduce cap by 1 digit, it says reduce gil by 1 digit
    yeah and then it goes on to say 999,999,999 will now be 99,999,999 and says nothing about everyone losing a percentage.
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