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    Quote Originally Posted by Churchill View Post
    This is a common mechanic they use in XI to increase difficulty through chance, though often XI hate resets are single target instead of complete hate resets which are what usually occurs in XIV.

    Either way, it's a bullshit mechanic and it's lazy from a development point of view.
    THIS. Simply THIS.

    They used it a lot in XI, cuz i suppose that with his engine/client, they can't make difficult "Wow style fight" (different mechanics, phases, things to avoid, buffs/debuffs to pass to member/monsters etc.) and it was ok 10 years ago

    And here in XIV in, 2012 it's simply boring... Yeah and i think too that the Dev Team was (is?) too lazy to bring more mechanics to "normal boss/monster" ... So what they could do to make fight not simply a tank and spank where everyone stand? HATE RESET yeah!
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    Last edited by Dragonheart; 08-04-2012 at 07:18 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonheart View Post
    And here in XIV in, 2012 it's simply boring... Yeah and i think too that the Dev Team was (is?) too lazy to bring more mechanics to "normal boss/monster" ... So what they could do to make fight not simply a tank and spank where everyone stand? HATE RESET yeah!
    I like to think that, provided 2.0's engine is superior to 1.0's engine, we will see more involved and interesting encounters once 2.0 hits. Hopefully those gameplay demos at gamescon will show this rather than more of the same. 1.0's engine really is lacking mechanics-wise. >.>;;;
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
    * Design ideas:
    Red Mage - COMPLETE (https://tinyurl.com/y6tsbnjh), Chemist - Second Pass (https://tinyurl.com/ssuog88), Thief - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/vdjpkoa), Rune Fencer - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/y3fomdp2)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duelle View Post
    I like to think that, provided 2.0's engine is superior to 1.0's engine, we will see more involved and interesting encounters once 2.0 hits. Hopefully those gameplay demos at gamescon will show this rather than more of the same. 1.0's engine really is lacking mechanics-wise. >.>;;;
    We are in the era where mmorpg are turning in action.. If SE wants to succeed with 2.0 , it should be much more fast paced.(not like tera of gw2 btw) With fun and dynamic mechanics! (garuda and ifrit are a good point to start to work on)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonheart View Post
    We are in the era where mmorpg are turning in action.. If SE wants to succeed with 2.0 , it should be much more fast paced.(not like tera of gw2 btw) With fun and dynamic mechanics! (garuda and ifrit are a good point to start to work on)
    Very true, ppl are in an era where they wanna see action and are very impatient to wait for it to happen ppl have short attention spands. that decade old system from XI along with other past mmo's mechanics arent gonna work in this era, back then yes but not now! ppl dont wanna sit around for forever just for the character to do something. xiv needs a system thats fast, fun, effective that slow battle pace and with same boring tank and spank & hate reset its old we need something new.

    Maybe we could have mutli targets on a single enemy you attack the legs it cant move then is at disadvantage against ranged or each body part has different defense stat taking more dmg(heck maybe on one part is weak againt melee other is magic) but this system with boss and just a bunch of trash add mobs is lame, as long SE are creative/open minded the possiblities are endless what they could come up with for 2.0

    as for the battle pace I see that auto attack needs to be improved having multi hits, its just boring to sit and wait for your character to do the same move everytime to build tp then finally do a combo and move around thats if your combo lands if you miss then you have to wait all over again. I along with some others would like to see multi hits in auto attack, each hit would build tp and do dmg of course(not just for show) and when finally done the set of hits you wait the few secs for the weapon dealy and it starts again with the mutli hits.

    example gla level 1-19 does a thrust, level 20-39 thrust & slice, 40-59 thrust,slice, shield punch, 60-79 thrust,slice,shield punch, plummel with back end of sword,so on so on... you get the idea. the player obviously could change that set up to either random set of hits or exact/preffered string of hits as they please.

    maybe auto attacks & multi targets on mob will allow players to start hitting one body part and then switch to other mid auto attack. weither or not this is possible will be determined by how fast your chararter executes thier auto attack. but it would be neat for say gla to attack a mob chest area with a slice then switch to arm and thrust, then shield punch the head just wanna throw it out thier.

    right now the battle pace is fair and thats due to combos, take that out and you will see just how slow/boring it would be without it. thats why i say auto attacks with multi hits will make it even faster which ppl want and honestly most ppl will probably dislike any weapon delay past about 4secs espeically when its a one hit attack its too slow and boring. now come time for 2.0 combos along with better auto attack and battle regimens(hopefully thats good) and better battle methods/tactics will make 2.0 good.
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