Final fight too hard?

[Azurymber]

why? this games dead, if it doesn't attract people 2.0 will fail at launch. The goal of this game at the moment is not to appease a small percentage of hardcore players but to attract old players who quit and new players. Todays gamers are casual, with 100s of LONG games to choose from, they don't want to devote their life to a game.

An easy solution is to have an easy mode fight for the story and then have another hard fight for an item -after- you complete the story (AA in ffxi for example).

If you want the game to be all hardcore or patient players then prepare to watch ffxiv sink and fail. Because if that style a game would have been successful, servers would not have merged.

[fusional]

An easy solution is to have an easy mode fight for the story and then have another hard fight for an item -after- you complete the story (AA in ffxi for example).

this is the easy mode fight. the hard mode is coming in 1.23a.

[Asiaine]

why? this games dead, if it doesn't attract people 2.0 will fail at launch. The goal of this game at the moment is not to appease a small percentage of hardcore players but to attract old players who quit and new players.

Are you sure that's SE's actual business strategy for this game? If so, please point us to the link. It would be very odd if that was their actual strategy, and most likely it would fail if their target market is 'old players who quit and new players'. More likely they have a much more focused target market than that.

That target market may not include people who only wish to rush through content in 15 minutes without any effort. It may be geared towards a completely different niche.

But before we play guessing games, let's find SE's business strategy for FFXIV 2.0 then we can discuss if they are on target ^.^

[Arksniper]

why? this games dead, if it doesn't attract people 2.0 will fail at launch. The goal of this game at the moment is not to appease a small percentage of hardcore players but to attract old players who quit and new players. Todays gamers are casual, with 100s of LONG games to choose from, they don't want to devote their life to a game.

An easy solution is to have an easy mode fight for the story and then have another hard fight for an item -after- you complete the story (AA in ffxi for example).

If you want the game to be all hardcore or patient players then prepare to watch ffxiv sink and fail. Because if that style a game would have been successful, servers would not have merged.

Yeah switches are lame. But for real the fights not that hard. Apparently you need to learn how to fight through new content.... Step 1: Balanced pt to test dmg/dps Step 2: Optimize pt and break down moves/percentages Step 3: Use info from step 1 and 2 and advance the fight untill you win... Step 4: Profit

Thats what we did and it took 4 or 5 runs total to beat.

[BruceyBruceyBangBang]

[Rau]

why? this games dead, if it doesn't attract people 2.0 will fail at launch. The goal of this game at the moment is not to appease a small percentage of hardcore players but to attract old players who quit and new players. Todays gamers are casual, with 100s of LONG games to choose from, they don't want to devote their life to a game.

An easy solution is to have an easy mode fight for the story and then have another hard fight for an item -after- you complete the story (AA in ffxi for example).

If you want the game to be all hardcore or patient players then prepare to watch ffxiv sink and fail. Because if that style a game would have been successful, servers would not have merged.

I think the dev team realizes that the only people playing right now are the dedicated players (Hence the legacy plan), and only a handful of casual players. The bulk of the casual content is coming in 2.0. Catering the game to people who will quit regardless of how hard or easy the fight is just as bad as ignoring them. A balance between difficulty and accessibility is necessary to appease both the "hardcore" and casual.

[Ricky]

why? this games dead, if it doesn't attract people 2.0 will fail at launch. The goal of this game at the moment is not to appease a small percentage of hardcore players but to attract old players who quit and new players. Todays gamers are casual, with 100s of LONG games to choose from, they don't want to devote their life to a game.

An easy solution is to have an easy mode fight for the story and then have another hard fight for an item -after- you complete the story (AA in ffxi for example).

If you want the game to be all hardcore or patient players then prepare to watch ffxiv sink and fail. Because if that style a game would have been successful, servers would not have merged.

this stuff isnt going to exist in 2.0, this is pre 2.0 content, thus it is designed with those who are crazy enough to do pre 2.0 stuff in mind
for all you know 2.0 is going to be much easier, if you dont like this then play in 2.0

[DarthTaru]

why? this games dead, if it doesn't attract people 2.0 will fail at launch. The goal of this game at the moment is not to appease a small percentage of hardcore players but to attract old players who quit and new players. Todays gamers are casual, with 100s of LONG games to choose from, they don't want to devote their life to a game.

An easy solution is to have an easy mode fight for the story and then have another hard fight for an item -after- you complete the story (AA in ffxi for example).

If you want the game to be all hardcore or patient players then prepare to watch ffxiv sink and fail. Because if that style a game would have been successful, servers would not have merged.

Yes, because if people log on and beat the one thing they returned for in two seconds their first try while on the phone and blogging in another window, they'll be so impressed that they'll continue to play the game forever.

[Ryans]

why? this games dead, if it doesn't attract people 2.0 will fail at launch. The goal of this game at the moment is not to appease a small percentage of hardcore players but to attract old players who quit and new players. Todays gamers are casual, with 100s of LONG games to choose from, they don't want to devote their life to a game.

You clearly haven't been following the progress of the game and read interviews with yoshida. The current game is in no way trying to attract new players, it is appeasing its current base. They don't want new people joining now and losing interest in 2.0 before it launches. I don't have the quote, but yoshida has flat out said that he is putting the current population as their first priority in terms of 1.0.

I know I don't want my experience with the end of 1.0 tarnished because of some people didn't care enough to stick with the game. Coming to party late shouldn't get you any special consideration.

[Amyas]

why? this games dead, if it doesn't attract people 2.0 will fail at launch. The goal of this game at the moment is not to appease a small percentage of hardcore players but to attract old players who quit and new players. Todays gamers are casual, with 100s of LONG games to choose from, they don't want to devote their life to a game.

An easy solution is to have an easy mode fight for the story and then have another hard fight for an item -after- you complete the story (AA in ffxi for example).

If you want the game to be all hardcore or patient players then prepare to watch ffxiv sink and fail. Because if that style a game would have been successful, servers would not have merged.

Yeah I know, right? Its gonna be hilarious when the 'Too-hardcore' turn on the 'Semi-hardcore' after the thousands of casuals just leave because their is no 'epic' content for them.
'SE, y u no make harder content to drive away these filthy 'Semi-hardcores'? xD
aaand then the servers shut down cause they don't have the money to run em

EDIT: ty churchill and Hyrist you're awesome for that comment