Final fight too hard?

[Azurymber]

A lot of friends who are casuals came back to complete the storyline. After dealing with spending 10-30min just trying to enter a fight and wiping 10+ times to AOEs most have just left again. A couple have basically said they don't even want to try 2.0 because it will just be the same problems with a new world.

While I do think that this is an awesome fight, for the population FFXIV has (60% only return at patches for a week, 20% full time casual 10% semi-hardcore and 10% hardcore, this fight seems pretty imbalanced.

In 2.0 I would understand fights being designed for hardcores or semi-hardcores. But for the ending of FFXIV which is supposed to let people finish up a story so they can transition to 2.0, this fight seems like its too much of a hassle.

That combined with "unable to proceed due to server congestion" is probably driving a lot of people away.

It also doesn't help that you get the same server lag as with ifrit, which is different for every individual. For example, the first few times i did the fight i got slammed with the beam attack even though i was behind the guy on my screen. I had to watch the minimap and move before he even appeared to avoid it.

Honestly I think that SE should just easy-mode the fight (cut difficulty by 50%?) so that people returning for a few days can finish up the storyline (even if they suck or only have af). If not, it will just make people more weary about 2.0.

[neorei]

well i'm sure once someone finds a fool proof plan for fight, it'll be easy sauce that pugs can do it. Just remember before they knew where to find the rocks in iffy, that fight too days to beat ( and with a kite strat too)

[AmyNeudaiz]

It's not that hard if you know what to do. Same with every other fight. Just seems hard because you don't know the strat.

[KaplanHomahru]

New content is always congested like this the first day. Not going to address the rest because lol

[EdenArchangel]

Loving it. Most fun in a long time

[NefarioCall]

Well, there's always youtube.
Also, this is probably the 4th last fight because there is an a, b, and c patch.
It's a tough fight, but also, from a storyline mission perspective, it's the only one in this 2 week cycle.
This is the first night. There also wasn't much length leading up to it.

[DarthTaru]

Thought the fight was pretty gimp. Nael Darnus too awesome a character to get punked out like that. Hoping Hard mode does him some real justice and hope to see him return in 2.0 as a weapon or something.

As for your friends, maybe if wiping twice is enough to drive them away from the game "again" then SE shouldn't be focusing on them. Kind of hard to imagine that if they quit once and returned to steam roll the Judge fight in two seconds flat that they would suddenly be hooked for life.

[Alerith]

The fight isn't even that hard. It's all about learning. After a couple wipes, we discovered the "sweet spot" that prevents our mages and ranged DD from taking any damage in the first phase.

The second phase is going to be trial and error as well. I'm sorry your friends want things handed to them, but this fight is like any other fight. Trial, Error and Victory.

Remember when Ifrit first came out? Same thing. Now you can do 3 minute speed runs on him.

[Rau]

Do other games not suffer from over congestion on patch day?

I feel like this would be normal. In 3 days, you will easily be able to get into that fight.

The fight isn't even that hard. It's all about learning. After a couple wipes, we discovered the "sweet spot" that prevents our mages and ranged DD from taking any damage in the first phase.

The second phase is going to be trial and error as well. I'm sorry your friends want things handed to them, but this fight is like any other fight. Trial, Error and Victory.

Remember when Ifrit first came out? Same thing. Now you can do 3 minute speed runs on him.

While I agree with your assessment of the fight, I don't think this is the point. The solution OP proposed doesn't even properly tackle the inherent problem of the servers being congested on patch day. Making the fight harder/easier isn't going to keep/repel players. The main problem is the server being congested on patch day, which is obviously unavoidable.



But really. Making the game ezmode just to appease patch hoppers?

[Azurymber]

I'm not saying the fights bad. I'm saying for a story fight in a game where most people don't care enough to be hardcore its too difficult. Noobs should be able to get through the story so they -want- to play 2.0. Hard fights should be for gear and stuff (ex. ifrit)