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  1. #1
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    Azurymber's Avatar
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    Azury Ariella
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    Balmung
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    Scholar Lv 90

    Final fight too hard?

    A lot of friends who are casuals came back to complete the storyline. After dealing with spending 10-30min just trying to enter a fight and wiping 10+ times to AOEs most have just left again. A couple have basically said they don't even want to try 2.0 because it will just be the same problems with a new world.

    While I do think that this is an awesome fight, for the population FFXIV has (60% only return at patches for a week, 20% full time casual 10% semi-hardcore and 10% hardcore, this fight seems pretty imbalanced.

    In 2.0 I would understand fights being designed for hardcores or semi-hardcores. But for the ending of FFXIV which is supposed to let people finish up a story so they can transition to 2.0, this fight seems like its too much of a hassle.

    That combined with "unable to proceed due to server congestion" is probably driving a lot of people away.

    It also doesn't help that you get the same server lag as with ifrit, which is different for every individual. For example, the first few times i did the fight i got slammed with the beam attack even though i was behind the guy on my screen. I had to watch the minimap and move before he even appeared to avoid it.

    Honestly I think that SE should just easy-mode the fight (cut difficulty by 50%?) so that people returning for a few days can finish up the storyline (even if they suck or only have af). If not, it will just make people more weary about 2.0.
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    Neorei Dawnbreaker
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    well i'm sure once someone finds a fool proof plan for fight, it'll be easy sauce that pugs can do it. Just remember before they knew where to find the rocks in iffy, that fight too days to beat ( and with a kite strat too)
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    Adahna Serafi
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    It's not that hard if you know what to do. Same with every other fight. Just seems hard because you don't know the strat.
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    Damien Ramirez
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    Shinryu
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmyNeudaiz View Post
    It's not that hard if you know what to do. Same with every other fight. Just seems hard because you don't know the strat.
    Altho your right & i agree with out
    Fact is any game that you need certain stratages for each & every fight & certain classes or weapons for each & every fight, also games that make instances on current stats then nerf them afterwards are games not worth playing unless your a hardcore gamer which is at most 5~10% of players on here. ( i know alot more claim there great but they are great b/s'ers not players, just because you bet garuda once with blm bug doesnt mean its easy to beat her)
    games where you can go in & die or go in & win are worth playing also games where you can play any class are also worth playing. atm this is not this game & as the same team is in charge of 2.0 that means 2.0 is going to be the same.

    Yoshi get your head out of your A** you can do it right if you try. also fun thought out instances are better than b/s ones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by prymortal View Post
    Altho your right & i agree with out
    Fact is any game that you need certain stratages for each & every fight & certain classes or weapons for each & every fight, also games that make instances on current stats then nerf them afterwards are games not worth playing unless your a hardcore gamer which is at most 5~10% of players on here. ( i know alot more claim there great but they are great b/s'ers not players, just because you bet garuda once with blm bug doesnt mean its easy to beat her)
    games where you can go in & die or go in & win are worth playing also games where you can play any class are also worth playing. atm this is not this game & as the same team is in charge of 2.0 that means 2.0 is going to be the same.

    Yoshi get your head out of your A** you can do it right if you try. also fun thought out instances are better than b/s ones.
    You are very, very poorly informed about 2.0
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    KaplanHomahru's Avatar
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    Kaplan Homahru
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    Balmung
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    New content is always congested like this the first day. Not going to address the rest because lol
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Loving it. Most fun in a long time
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    Nefario Call
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    Cactuar
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    Alchemist Lv 80
    Well, there's always youtube.
    Also, this is probably the 4th last fight because there is an a, b, and c patch.
    It's a tough fight, but also, from a storyline mission perspective, it's the only one in this 2 week cycle.
    This is the first night. There also wasn't much length leading up to it.
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    Darth Taru
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Thought the fight was pretty gimp. Nael Darnus too awesome a character to get punked out like that. Hoping Hard mode does him some real justice and hope to see him return in 2.0 as a weapon or something.

    As for your friends, maybe if wiping twice is enough to drive them away from the game "again" then SE shouldn't be focusing on them. Kind of hard to imagine that if they quit once and returned to steam roll the Judge fight in two seconds flat that they would suddenly be hooked for life.
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    Last edited by DarthTaru; 07-26-2012 at 03:19 PM.

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