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    Quote Originally Posted by Babydoll View Post
    I understand and see your point, but when you see someone with a relic..instead of thinking "Wow they must have some mad skills" instead think "Wow..they got...lucky.."

    Really impressive.
    Its also impressive how clueless you are about this quest altogether if you think someone with relic is getting lucky. I dont remember double meld is the only part if this quest.

    To OP,
    Every step in this quest has RNG, but every step also has a way to bypass the RNG, its up to you whether you want to deal with the RNG or not, or whether you have what it takes to bypass the RNG.
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    Let's avoid the direct insults, Chardrizard.

    Quote Originally Posted by Babydoll View Post

    I MUCH rather obtain my special weapon through a series of tough NM fights, remember ZNM in FFXI? Getting stuff from that was actually impressive...because not only did you need to farm (the pictures) you had to defeat really tough bosses in very tough areas (lots of aggro, add, etc) when I got my Enkidu boots when they first came out for my DNC on my first try, I got up from my PC and did a dance..lmao.
    Please keep in mind the depth of the other difficulties involved with this.

    You need to beat both Ifrit Extreme and Garuda Hard in that order.
    You need to be able to speed-run multiple instance raids under 17 minutes.

    Those alone will be plenty of challenge and dangerous work for more than just your average player.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyrist View Post
    Let's avoid the direct insults, Chardrizard.



    Please keep in mind the depth of the other difficulties involved with this.

    You need to beat both Ifrit Extreme and Garuda Hard in that order.
    You need to be able to speed-run multiple instance raids under 17 minutes.

    Those alone will be plenty of challenge and dangerous work for more than just your average player.
    Oh yes..those parts are for sure a challenge If they ever do release a relic for Summoner..I look forward to doing that part of the quest! I suppose the most positive way I could look at the quest would be..the first half of it is somewhat easy to do..and second half is challenging. So it is a pretty good balance when I look at it that way. Thank you Hyrist for pointing this out.

    and Chardrizard...I've never said anything rude directly to you...so I don't really have much of a retort?..as I don't really..get involved in insult type internet fights and bullying, I get enough of that as it is. Usually ignore it >.>

    I always will think the person got lucky with the weapon meld...and yes, once I decide to do it I too will say I got lucky as well lol. It is not like there is something wrong with being lucky...it is just not something that wows me is all. It takes a lot to impress me...and that is my opinion, just as yours..is yours.
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    Relic's supposed to be that challenging cup at the end of the race track - the golden cup available to the few who managed to go through the trials to get there. Until then, there are plenty of alternatives. Relics are supposed to be relics, not some sword you can get in a day. Deal with it.

    I'm dealing with it and I'm fine with it. There are plenty of milestones that I'm working on to pass the time until I'm rich and powerful enough to get a relic. Just yesterday I finally got Second Storm Lieutenant, and now I'm working on my second lv50, MDR/WAR. And after that, I'm working on Darklight. All of this while I complete the upcoming 7th Umbral Era, and getting whatever promotions pop up.

    Relic's aren't the be-all end-all of everything. They're just a nice reward for getting veeeerrryyy far in the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yoshikwalla View Post
    Relic's supposed to be that challenging cup at the end of the race track - the golden cup available to the few who managed to go through the trials to get there. Until then, there are plenty of alternatives. Relics are supposed to be relics, not some sword you can get in a day. Deal with it.

    I'm dealing with it and I'm fine with it. There are plenty of milestones that I'm working on to pass the time until I'm rich and powerful enough to get a relic. Just yesterday I finally got Second Storm Lieutenant, and now I'm working on my second lv50, MDR/WAR. And after that, I'm working on Darklight. All of this while I complete the upcoming 7th Umbral Era, and getting whatever promotions pop up.

    Relic's aren't the be-all end-all of everything. They're just a nice reward for getting veeeerrryyy far in the game.
    artifact weapons~
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    I laughed at the bold part because there has been numerous complaints on forums about drop rates even before hamlet and SE hasn't really done anything about it.
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    Relic will also be here post 2.0... what he meant by that statement was more along the lines of content that WONT be available post 2.0.. Things like ifrit primal and moogle primal weapons are likely to be on that list.. He is sticking to his word, and relics AREN'T for everyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gold_Lion View Post
    But again, that doesn't mean we're going to forget about our current version players. We're going to listen to the voices of the players, look at the forums, adjust drop rates to reduce as much stress as possible for the players so they can experience this grand finale, the Seventh Umbral Era story, that ushers in 2.0
    Source:http://www.1up.com/features/ffxiv-in...nix-fallen-mmo

    Hi yoshi I just want you to stand by your word
    The relic quest has been out for almost two months now and there have been no dev replies in regards to the relic quest double melding stage. Can you atleast acknowledge it is severely unbalanced?
    I don't understand the OP. What have the 7th umbral era story to do with relict weapon?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yucie View Post
    artifact weapons~
    Ahhh crap. This is what I get for going on the forums right after I wake up.
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    Also Babydoll I am actually kind of offended that you think that just any crafter can go about spitting Darksteel weapons without any sort of skill or effort.
    Or that any DoL can gather those items required without a lot of effort himself either.

    Actually I am very stumped that you people seem to believe that the battles are the only part that require skill :/

    I guess it shows the forum community has no love for DoH and DoL. You hear more about people complaining that double-melding is luck-based and costly than you hear gatherers/crafters complaining the synths are too difficult or the nodes rarely give +1s.

    Where the hell do you think the darksteel weapons come from? That they're bought from an NPC so that Gil is the ONLY portion of it? You say as if 'I spent 4M Gil in darksteel weapons' actually meant that THAT is the effort spent on those weapons.
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