Relic Weapons-Broken Promises

[Babydoll]

Very few things in this game require real skills. Its entertainment lol.

Yes...this makes me very sad, that is why I spent all my time crafting until 2.0...when maybe they will release stuff that requires me to rub two brain cells together and use real skills.

That's not a matter of luck, that's a matter of dedication. Just because there's a 20% success rate dosent mean 'Oh wow, he got lucky.' The guy may have blown millions on the item, having to gruel his way to farm the gil or get the meteria and crafting supplies for the multiple attempts.

That's not luck. That's perseverance.

I would be very concerned about the value of these relics if I did not see complaints on these boards about the difficulty achieving them. They're supposed to be something hard and special. Sure, there's luck elements involved, but you will always overcome luck elements in this game with enough perseverance. You MAY get lucky and get by quickly, but typically that will not be the case.

And this isn't even touching Ifrit Extreme.

Make no mistake, anyone who has a fully realized Relic has EARNED it.

I see your point about the person struggling to get there..but still, it is really not that hard to farm it...just a matter of having free time and not being bored to death while farming. It does not take much raw skill that could be displayed in say...taking down a series of really difficult bosses.

I am not one to be impressed by saying OH WOW you spent all that time farming!! True, that is dedication...but it does not impress me (my opinion, that I am entitled to as you yours) it takes little to no skill to go out there and farm...

Ifrit extreme is pretty cool, I'll give it that much.

I guess you have to know how to...join a SB party? Or..know how to umm farm that particular item which the weapon is crafted from? It just takes time...anyone can press the keys to do it. It just comes down to how much time people have to spare and how willing they are to stick with it.

I MUCH rather obtain my special weapon through a series of tough NM fights, remember ZNM in FFXI? Getting stuff from that was actually impressive...because not only did you need to farm (the pictures) you had to defeat really tough bosses in very tough areas (lots of aggro, add, etc) when I got my Enkidu boots when they first came out for my DNC on my first try, I got up from my PC and did a dance..lmao. I have never done that in FFXIV...I've made plenty of triple melds and was like..ok cool. So my character is lucky..or something. Awesome.

Anyway Hyrist..I see and respect your opinion. Thanks for sharing

[Hyrist]

Let's avoid the direct insults, Chardrizard.

I MUCH rather obtain my special weapon through a series of tough NM fights, remember ZNM in FFXI? Getting stuff from that was actually impressive...because not only did you need to farm (the pictures) you had to defeat really tough bosses in very tough areas (lots of aggro, add, etc) when I got my Enkidu boots when they first came out for my DNC on my first try, I got up from my PC and did a dance..lmao.

Please keep in mind the depth of the other difficulties involved with this.

You need to beat both Ifrit Extreme and Garuda Hard in that order.
You need to be able to speed-run multiple instance raids under 17 minutes.

Those alone will be plenty of challenge and dangerous work for more than just your average player.

[Babydoll]

Let's avoid the direct insults, Chardrizard.



Please keep in mind the depth of the other difficulties involved with this.

You need to beat both Ifrit Extreme and Garuda Hard in that order.
You need to be able to speed-run multiple instance raids under 17 minutes.

Those alone will be plenty of challenge and dangerous work for more than just your average player.

Oh yes..those parts are for sure a challenge If they ever do release a relic for Summoner..I look forward to doing that part of the quest! I suppose the most positive way I could look at the quest would be..the first half of it is somewhat easy to do..and second half is challenging. So it is a pretty good balance when I look at it that way. Thank you Hyrist for pointing this out.

and Chardrizard...I've never said anything rude directly to you...so I don't really have much of a retort?..as I don't really..get involved in insult type internet fights and bullying, I get enough of that as it is. Usually ignore it >.>

I always will think the person got lucky with the weapon meld...and yes, once I decide to do it I too will say I got lucky as well lol. It is not like there is something wrong with being lucky...it is just not something that wows me is all. It takes a lot to impress me...and that is my opinion, just as yours..is yours.

[Zante]

if you have the gil and dedication to a job that you love why not go for the best gear and weapons for that job? if you love a job enough to make a relic for it money should not even matter relics are not for everyone in the game to own if you dont want to craft/spiritbond/farm (Work) etc for the money to make a relic and want one for cheap and easy then just double or triple meld some gear and be happy with what you have relics are not for you.