Hey guys,

I am glad to see so many passionate opinions being expressed here, but when they degenerate into attacks on one another as well as others, it needs to be toned down. I think this is a great thread with some really good posts, and so I don't want to have to undo it all. Please try to keep on-topic, and keep the comments constructive please. Otherwise, we may have to lock or delete the thread.

Thanks,

-Verytus