Character Growth: Leveling is part of RPGs

[Ksenia]

I don't really want to step on the toes of power levelers. Much of the Open world, sand box content they use to power level is the reason I find FF14 attractive. Setting aside the live and let live principal, in order to nerf them, they need to nerf content and that's just not an option right now. We really don't have anough Open world content to nerf any of it.

[Dawiichan]

People that want to take away leveling also want the first 40 levels of crafting to be useless, yet they already are for the most part. Then again, I guess none of them have ever participated in any good mid-game content or enjoyed a full character progression.

[Celia]

What the game should have is more midgame content, I don't blame SE for adding so much endgame content right now because most players who are subscribed are at Level 40-50 on several classes, and so endgame content is most important to them.

As well as alternative ways of leveling other than grinding - I don't care if grinding might level faster, despite being monotonous. If there was an alternative way to level, say through competing in PVP or a type of Conquest-esque system (even if these two were, in comparison to the grinding, a slower way to level) I'd PVP and Conquest more than grind.

[Duelle]

XI's pace was perfect because it had content you could do in between of leveling or instead of leveling, plus by time most people finished leveling, SE released even more content. The problem with new age MMOs is they need to make leveling an afterthought and give you all content at once.

Farming beehive chips so that you could buy an overpriced NM drop or overpriced "must have +1" piece of gear so that you were up to "standard" is not content. Lolgarrison was so bad that they had to add manequin pieces to the drop pool to try to make people do them. Eco-warrior had the worst difficulty:reward ratio out of any event I've ever seen in an MMO.

[Mattia]

Eco-warrior had the worst difficulty:reward ratio out of any event I've ever seen in an MMO.

You can't deny that it was fun as hell though lol.

[HiirNoivl]

Yoshi said he was going to address leveling speed in 2.0 but only for 41-50 speed. Everything else is intentional and won't change.

[Dawiichan]

Yoshi said he was going to address leveling speed in 2.0 but only for 41-50 speed. Everything else is intentional and won't change.

Without power leveling, 1-40 is actually at a good pace in leveling. 41-50 is just a joke though. I personally agree with that.

[Airget]

Without power leveling, 1-40 is actually at a good pace in leveling. 41-50 is just a joke though. I personally agree with that.

As long as they just do it for DOM/W cause DOL/H I find is perfect for those lvs XD it's just annoying enough that you can't really grind it but just right that it makes sense since those should be a tad annoying to level for the economical advantages they offer. But I do definitely agree with DOW/M even solo from 40+ it takes maybe 4-8 leves to level since the xp boost at the end of each one is insanely high on top of the xp boost and chains you can obtain from said leve. At the same time you also have access to more abilities and skills so the rate in which you can kill mobs increases which means you can obtain a higher chain during a leve and get more overall xp.

[Soukyuu]

Some people should learn how to discuss things neutrally instead of jumping at each other and bickering like bored grandmas with nothing better to do. First you flame to your hearts content, get a thread closed, then wonder why another one about this topic pops up, you proceed to do the same all over again. Jesus.

I agree the main issue is powerleveling but developers seem mum on actually doing anything about it and Yoshi seems to support it rather feverently.

Without Powerleveling it takes a acceptable ammount of time to max out (Although the last 20 levels need to be slowed down a bit)

Exactly. Sadly, developers want money. And people want to have a shortcut. Thus powerleveling stays.

[Gentaro]

It more annoys me that leveling means AoE burning 327832 mobs instead of taking on one or two