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    Quote Originally Posted by Firon View Post
    I think a lot of of ppl just wanna lvl off one mob at a time taking 2-3 mins to kill like XI, and guess what those days are dead.
    Your party failed if it took longer than a minute to kill a mob, which in your words: Guess what? Yoship wants battles for partying to last 60-90s. Also guess what? a lot of people agree mobs die too quickly in this game.

    Quote Originally Posted by Andrien View Post
    Even if you level up fast, you still have long term goals to complete. From gathering achievements, to relics. no one can cakewalk those stuff.
    Nope..fast leveling = fast route to all content.

    Spammable Content = complete all content quickly.

    Complete all content quickly = People complaining about nothing to do.

    XI's pace was perfect because it had content you could do in between of leveling or instead of leveling, plus by time most people finished leveling, SE released even more content. The problem with new age MMOs is they need to make leveling an afterthought and give you all content at once.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    Your party failed if it took longer than a minute to kill a mob, which in your words: Guess what? Yoship wants battles for partying to last 60-90s. Also guess what? a lot of people agree mobs die too quickly in this game.



    Nope..fast leveling = fast route to all content.

    Spammable Content = complete all content quickly.

    Complete all content quickly = People complaining about nothing to do.

    XI's pace was perfect because it had content you could do in between of leveling or instead of leveling, plus by time most people finished leveling, SE released even more content. The problem with new age MMOs is they need to make leveling an afterthought and give you all content at once.
    Lol at your whole post I, don't ever remember Yoshi-p saying he wants fights with a single mob to take 60-90 secs with a full pt he may have said that for solo but never for a full pt. The rest of your post is just as ridiculous hell the content to do in xi while lvling up was terrible, all the content you said that XI had was more like roadblocks not content. The lvl cap quest farming kazham keys, and making money for gear all that shit was road blocks for char progression and not in a good way, it made plenty of ppl quit cause it was not something they could solo or it took way too long to do. Just like this game @ one point the only thing to do in xi was lvling till cap then that's where the bulk of the content was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    XI's pace was perfect because it had content you could do in between of leveling or instead of leveling, plus by time most people finished leveling, SE released even more content. The problem with new age MMOs is they need to make leveling an afterthought and give you all content at once.
    Farming beehive chips so that you could buy an overpriced NM drop or overpriced "must have +1" piece of gear so that you were up to "standard" is not content. Lolgarrison was so bad that they had to add manequin pieces to the drop pool to try to make people do them. Eco-warrior had the worst difficulty:reward ratio out of any event I've ever seen in an MMO.
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duelle View Post
    Eco-warrior had the worst difficulty:reward ratio out of any event I've ever seen in an MMO.

    You can't deny that it was fun as hell though lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post

    Nope..fast leveling = fast route to all content.

    Spammable Content = complete all content quickly.

    Complete all content quickly = People complaining about nothing to do.

    XI's pace was perfect because it had content you could do in between of leveling or instead of leveling, plus by time most people finished leveling, SE released even more content. The problem with new age MMOs is they need to make leveling an afterthought and give you all content at once.
    Nope Chuck Testa. Get all your achievements then get back to me. spamming one content over and over is not doing all the content. Did you get all your crown achievements? Gil achievements? Gold fishing rod? If you want to be hardcore those are the long term stuff people will do. Plus you can do that while leveling.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eliseus View Post
    Sadly these polls aren't accurate when they don't have a way to do the poll through game considering the amounts of players that don't actually visit the forums at all. Just putting that out there.
    that is irrelevant. only 3% of the ffxiv gaming community is from the forums. versus 97% that just play the game without bothering to look in here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrien View Post
    Nope Chuck Testa. Get all your achievements then get back to me. spamming one content over and over is not doing all the content. Did you get all your crown achievements? Gil achievements? Gold fishing rod? If you want to be hardcore those are the long term stuff people will do. Plus you can do that while leveling.



    that is irrelevant. only 3% of the ffxiv gaming community is from the forums. versus 97% that just play the game without bothering to look in here.
    how is that irrelevant when a poll is only based on the forums community?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eliseus View Post
    how is that irrelevant when a poll is only based on the forums community?
    the forum community is not the only group that took it
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    Hai guyz, I thought what with the front page full of threads like this, we needed one more thread, because my opinion is super special, even though it brings nothing new to the table!
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    took me 6 months to all 50 that'ss 7 jobs

    that's through leve, and regular party leveling. Also doing LS events and all that

    anyways DING!!

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    I'm building up my post count!
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