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  1. #311
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    Quote Originally Posted by AdvancedWind View Post
    Word of mouth without a good campaign and info dump from SE =

    "Hey, I'm playing FFXIV! You should check it out!"

    ......what? Are you crazy? That thing still online? Heck,I heard they only let you play for 2 hours and then you can't get XP! Nah bro, I'm just gonna check out - insert next big MMO thingy here.
    Then you should be supporting the fact that they're waiting till they have the presentation info TO dump. Not that you can't point at the outline of what's changing through the already existing information anyways.

    Sounds to me like you don't actually try when it comes to pushing a game you enjoy. or are you simply playing for the Legacy prices and the hope that 2.0 will 'make it all better'?

    I mean, if you're not sold on the game, don't try to sell it yourself. There are still a large bunch that is playing strictly because of the promise of 2.0. Those guys are better off waiting until they are in the 2.0 beta before trying to spread by word of mouth.

    Those that are liking the elements in the game they've added should be the one's pushing now. That much can be supported by info already in the game.

    I don't predict FFXIV will be well received at E3 regardless of the trailer. It probably won't be until after 2.0 is already out that people will start cautiously looking our way again. Market machine won't be working here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by charlemagne View Post
    SE stand at E3

    Games interviewer: So here we are at the biggest event of the summer for gamers,E3. Lets see what SE has in store for us! So SE what can we expect from you this year?
    SE: we fixed xiv it's gonna be really good and not suck at all this time honest.
    Games Interviewer: Really? Okay then so have you got some gameplay to show us all?
    SE: no
    Games interviewer: Trailer maybe?
    SE: no
    Games interviewer: So what have you got for us today that'll convince the gameplaying public to give your MMO a second chance?
    SE: I drawed you a picture!
    Games interviewer: ....................
    LOL!!!!! that is hilarious XD and it might just happen lol! cant wait to see the interviewer's face! 8-}
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  3. #313
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nullie View Post
    There's nothing wrong with discussing something and you tell people they shouldn't. That's my problem. I see you worked yourself into a hole there and couldn't back out. Me, I'm talking. You, you've been qqing the qqers. "Meh, it's whatever really, but I'm gonna sit here and post and qq to you qqers and then I'm gonna by like "whatever really, doesn't matter." So yes. Have you happy memorial day! Irony. Haha sorry.
    Right back at ya, Happy Memorial Day! See I can be Civil!
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    I swear, Starlord has like half the posts in this thread. I'm not sure who needs to "get over it".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyrist View Post
    To be frank. I'm tired of the Hype Machine in general.

    Every single little company is tossing around overproduced BS that isn't in the game, all for a bid of attention and marketing. I don't remember Minecraft splitting multi-million dollar budget on trailers getting people to like their game... and they've got what, 9 million copies sold now?

    The PR caught that, and spoke with Yoshi. This time, hype won't work. The game has to sell itself. It's about effing time that policy is embraced again for once within our market.

    Am I disappointed that we won't have that ready for E3? Yeah, I am. But that just means when the data is released, I won't have to wait a few months more to start experiencing it.

    I'm already sold on the game. If SE's marketing department isn't as good as the game deserves, then I guess we'll have to step up and do it. What a concept, marketing by word of mouth.
    This idea may have worked if FFXIV was a brand new little gem of a game that was coming out in a few months...but it's not. It's 2 years old and has been universally panned by critics and players.

    For this game to pick up momentum, it's going to take more than just a few players who have stuck with the game since launch telling their friends "It's much better now, I swear!", which people have probably already been doing with each patch.

    SE needs to prove that this is a game that has not only improved since launch (because that's not saying much), BUT it can compete with the new games coming out and is worth purchasing and paying a subscription fee.
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  6. #316
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    I don't care when we get to see the new trailer as long as 2.0 delivers.
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  7. #317
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mug View Post
    I swear, Starlord has like half the posts in this thread. I'm not sure who needs to "get over it".
    When people don't seem to get it yeah.. but now I'm burnt out. just like getting GC stuff with seals obtaining like 40k worth of seals ( and still not done) yeah I'm kinda Burnt out. but who's really judging. But if you wanna point fingers...

    Edit: And I'm also tired of repeating myself as well, I said we will see a long time, and the same people still go on about it.. And this for everyone!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1orMXD_Ijbs

    Happy Memorial Day!! Trolololol
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    Last edited by Starlord; 05-29-2012 at 05:44 AM.

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    While I would agree that it's smarter to flood info when you have it, and that a trailer isn't necessarily going to be the thing that promises us greater things about the game...

    I think it's a really dumb move, overall. You need something to hook people with about your game, and E3 is probably the BEST chance for positive PR that any game has year-round. And the one thing this game needs most if it wants to succeed past 2.0 is great PR.

    Plus, it's harmless. A cool trailer, is that really going to destroy the game if it's shown at E3? It's not going to change that game at all, all it's going to do is draw attention about XIV, hopefully positive attention. 9 times of of 10 the thing that draws people to a game at E3 isn't a cool interview or a little info on a new game, it's a flashy f*cking CS and 5 minutes of enjoyable gameplay. While we can't necessarily get people with the gameplay, unless they have some 2.0 stuff prepared to play through; we can draw the crowd with what we already know will be a beautifully wrought CS, and then get them even more interested with info about 2.0.

    I just feel like it's a dumb decision for PR, when this game needs PR the most.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    Like Everyone on here feels like Nothing is going to be presented at E3 ( and considers that facts) let me tell you. At least I find reasons within his writing if you " Read Between the lines" and read everything closely you to can crack the code!

    However, you are right we don't know whats going to be at E3, but all the "nope its not going to be there" people seem to know what they are doing.
    Who really cares, as long as I get comprehensive notes in some form in June, then all good with me. Do people whine just to whine these days? We still are getting quite a bit of information, are you mad because it is not being presented in a small booth?

    Really, if there is something SE is good at, it is marketing and promoting a game. I am very sure they will find a way to tell future PS3 players "Hey come try out FFXIV 2.0! You will have a blast.".
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    Last edited by Velhart; 05-29-2012 at 06:00 AM.

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    2.0 is a lie!
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