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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    When people don't seem to get it yeah..
    But sadly, I think you dont get it, as well as some others here... So everyone just end up in this cycle haha.

    I think you're blinded by hope to much and have expectations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by viion View Post
    But sadly, I think you dont get it, as well as some others here... So everyone just end up in this cycle haha.

    I think you're blinded by hope to much and have expectations.
    If you say so oh wise one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by viion View Post
    But sadly, I think you dont get it, as well as some others here... So everyone just end up in this cycle haha.

    I think you're blinded by hope to much and have expectations.
    some of us understand that there will be no trailer, and we understand people are upset about it, but we also read the whole letter and not just that 1 line saying no trailer

    and until e3 hits and we see exactly what they tell us there(they said there will be something) can anyone truely claim we are getting absolutely nothing, cuz thats exactly what people are acting like, like the trailer is the only thing they coulda done

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    some of us understand that there will be no trailer, and we understand people are upset about it, but we also read the whole letter and not just that 1 line saying no trailer

    and until e3 hits and we see exactly what they tell us there(they said there will be something) can anyone truely claim we are getting absolutely nothing, cuz thats exactly what people are acting like, like the trailer is the only thing they coulda done
    Man you and me never agree much, but this some how feels like a bonding moment ( I know don't get too cute Starlord) :P hahaha
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    some of us understand that there will be no trailer, and we understand people are upset about it, but we also read the whole letter and not just that 1 line saying no trailer

    and until e3 hits and we see exactly what they tell us there(they said there will be something) can anyone truely claim we are getting absolutely nothing, cuz thats exactly what people are acting like, like the trailer is the only thing they coulda done
    Some people aren't necessarily upset about not getting to see a trailer, but about the implications that not having something like that to show at E3 means for the game's popularity and grown post-2.0.

    You're right, they could do other things, let's list them:

    - interviews
    - new website
    - 2.0 gameplay or SE employees playing demos themselves

    We already know that there will be interviews and a new site, but I seriously doubt that there will be any 2.0 gameplay shown at E3. If they do, however, manage to put together a decent demo for 2.0 that they can show off, I'll be satisfied. If not, I'll continue to be worried about the future of the game in terms of actual sales post-2.0.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    some of us understand that there will be no trailer, and we understand people are upset about it, but we also read the whole letter and not just that 1 line saying no trailer

    and until e3 hits and we see exactly what they tell us there(they said there will be something) can anyone truely claim we are getting absolutely nothing, cuz thats exactly what people are acting like, like the trailer is the only thing they coulda done
    They could do Interviews: Oh wait thats been done
    They could do Artwork: Oh wait thats been done
    They could do Timelines: Oh wait thats been done
    They could do Powerpoints: Oh wait thats been done too!!!

    Not saying what follows after E3 can't be awesome, but I am saying this company likes to jerk around the only people supporting them at the moment (XIV wise anyway) and many of us are tired of it and use the forums as a means to communicate this to SE. So yeah, bummed theres no E3 video and your little "look on the bright side of life" routine has been done before because this is like the 1000th time they have done something like this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheFatHousecat View Post
    Some people aren't necessarily upset about not getting to see a trailer, but about the implications that not having something like that to show at E3 means for the game's popularity and grown post-2.0.

    You're right, they could do other things, let's list them:

    - interviews
    - new website
    - 2.0 gameplay or SE employees playing demos themselves

    We already know that there will be interviews and a new site, but I seriously doubt that there will be any 2.0 gameplay shown at E3. If they do, however, manage to put together a decent demo for 2.0 that they can show off, I'll be satisfied. If not, I'll continue to be worried about the future of the game in terms of actual sales post-2.0.
    and we will know everything in a week, so no need to rage now when we will be able to see what goes on next week and then judge from there.

    people just like over-reacting to the littlest thing

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    I also think they just had a generic trailer and choked when they realized people would be expecting more. It's probably because they couldn't get the entire E3 package ready in time; back in the glory days the flow of most major JP games at E3 was "big reveal, followed almost immediately by massive and exciting new website" and sometimes they put the site out first to get people frothing and revealed it little by little. Clearly they couldn't get it all done in time, so releasing the trailer on its own would be underwhelming and a "shameful display of failure".

    They're being very earnest about this like you'd expect JP business decisions to be: have it all ready and people will enjoy it, or don't show it at all. I think this hardly comes as a surprise when you consider every decision they've made with the game so far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    some of us understand that there will be no trailer, and we understand people are upset about it, but we also read the whole letter and not just that 1 line saying no trailer

    and until e3 hits and we see exactly what they tell us there(they said there will be something) can anyone truely claim we are getting absolutely nothing, cuz thats exactly what people are acting like, like the trailer is the only thing they coulda done
    What the problem I have is we were lied to and I read the whole letter. It's not that I can't see the trailer. They should have removed that long ago and their biggest thing they've been hyping is 2.0. It was on their road map and we also get the usual "coming in 2.0." Then the week before they pull it and give a small reason as to why. And I do find it hard to believe they knew they were going to do this now. They've had plenty of time to let everyone know that things were going to change and this could have been avoided. But if I can't believe they are telling the truth on something like that, how can I expect them to say the truth to anything? Doing that kind of stuff makes me say "Don't believe anything they say." and that's not something I want to tell people about a company I want to support. I don't know that we aren't getting anything, but I'm also not going to say we are. I wish I didn't have to say that.

    People have high expectations with a company they do business with. You want the best service you can get. At this point I won't even bother looking at their roadmap anymore because I feel like it's just going to change, but that's me. It's a decision they make and if they want to leave their people in the dark feeling like that it's fine, but don't expect me to kiss their boots. For all we know we could be getting more, but if they say they want to keep it under wraps for now and then flood everything how much more are you expecting them to show if they don't even want to show a trailer?

    That's all I'm saying.
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    Here we go with the lied thing again...

    When a Company is trying to get their game into the light.. there's really no such things as "lies". If they "feel" that Not showing the Trailer there and its better to show it at gamescom, but still show alot of stuff at E3 Regarding FFXIV in General to people who don't know, so new people can see the new improvements of the game. Then so be it. It doesn't make them "liers" they just think that this is a better route to go.. the only thing us players need to do is accept it.

    When, it comes to Marketing, things can and will change, it doesn't make them "liers". Yes its a let down for us waiting for it.. but we also have to understand their position, if they feel this is the right way to go. then so be it.
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