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  1. #81
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    Aidorouge's Avatar
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    Buzam Aidorouge
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Uzephi View Post
    The only time healers have fun, now, is when you get at least two new people in a fight, or one person having a really bad day. When things go right, healing is the most boring thing to do in this game. You mess up enough where I get to fully flex my kit, you are getting a comm as a thanks for letting me play my job.
    I try to lowkey not use Second Wind/Bloodbath when I can, but that sometimes has the opposite effect of the healer being so zoned out doing their 1-button DPS/doing something in a 2nd monitor that they don't notice I'm hurt for several seconds if not the entire fight, lol.

    I don't blame that on healer incompetence though, I fully get why they might be bored out of their minds and/or fighting against dozing off in normal content.
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  2. #82
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    ForsakenRoe's Avatar
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    Samantha Redgrayve
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    Zodiark
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Alicie View Post
    One thing is being able to do so in old content.
    Completely another thing was when I watched, at a moment of Dawntrail release, a tank solo entire boss of Vanguard dungeon, alone, start to end. Nobody should be able to pull such thing off in a dungeon that was just released in current patch. This game has insane balance issues. In fact it probably is worst out of all games I ever played.
    Reading this made it click in my mind

    What Tanks now do self-healingwise, is the exact kind of power that was used to justify BLU being unable to be a real Job. 'It'd be too OP cos it could selfheal stupid amounts with White Wind/can mitigate stupid amounts with Diamondback', meanwhile we have WARs in dungeons healing their entire HP bar once per GCD, for 3 GCDs, every 25s
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    Last edited by ForsakenRoe; Yesterday at 10:46 AM.
    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE
    Healers feel like they've fallen behind the times, designed for a game that no longer exists. I believe SE can update Healer designs to better fit the modern raiding environment they're now creating, offering optimizations for players to master, while still remaining accessible to new players to the role, all while enhancing Job Identity of each Healer by creating a unique gameplay loop for each individual Job in the role. A 'Role Reborn', if you will. https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/504892 is my attempt to prove this belief is not only 'possible', but a very achievable goal for SE

  3. #83
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    Striker44's Avatar
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    Elmind Exilus
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    Gilgamesh
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    I'm a pug player, so I haven't really run into this much. When I'm in a pug, I'm sometimes surprised how much healing some tanks need while others need one. That includes some warriors that may not really know how to play or something, as I see their HP plummet.

    I love my pugs and players that get hit by almost everything lol.
    This is exactly my experience. I run 99.5% of my dungeons in random LFG pugs, and most tanks I'm paired with need some degree of healing to survive the typical 2-pack mob pulls. Are there tanks sufficiently skilled that they can play thru a normal-level dungeon without a healer? Absolutely. Just like someone else above who mentioned you can do the same without a tank.
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  4. #84
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    GraceHorizon's Avatar
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    Grace Horizon
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    Rafflesia
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Aidorouge View Post
    I try to lowkey not use Second Wind/Bloodbath when I can, but that sometimes has the opposite effect of the healer being so zoned out doing their 1-button DPS/doing something in a 2nd monitor that they don't notice I'm hurt for several seconds if not the entire fight, lol.

    I don't blame that on healer incompetence though, I fully get why they might be bored out of their minds and/or fighting against dozing off in normal content.
    Oh please do use your role abilities to help yourself. Most healers are not fussy about it and some need all the help they can get. I use mine when I screw up a mechanic or when I’m in trouble and the healer(s) can’t easily help.
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  5. #85
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    hynaku's Avatar
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    Inglis Eucus
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    Cuchulainn
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    Pictomancer Lv 100
    How the game is now there is no point to add anymore new healer jobs till it's fixed.
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  6. #86
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    PercibelTheren's Avatar
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    Percibel Theren
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    Zodiark
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ServerCollaps View Post
    i mean.. you want to heal people theres plenty of content that allows you to do so. Literally every ex trial, savages, variant+, quantum give heals a lot to do
    you cant make casual dungeons more heal intensive, because 90% of "casuals" would fail them then and they would vent even more
    Most of that healing amounts to "press your big OGCD AoE heal every 30 seconds, right as it comes off cooldown", though.
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  7. #87
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    Supersnow845's Avatar
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Jenova
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Apparently the peak of savage healing is pressing sacred soil before every raidwide and then indom after every raidwide
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

  8. #88
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    Reginald_Cain's Avatar
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    Reginald Cain
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    Exodus
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Blame the heal bots holding parties hostage for healing being on everybody
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    I'm like crit melds fine, I wonder when they'll be me mine! penta meld then i hit rewind, to watch it slot one more time and I got thit SODA!

    -Reginald Pain #1 on the fa mic, blessed with Hydaelyns might, I'll kill ya on sight... *POW*

  9. #89
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Jenova
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    Scholar Lv 100
    So because the average DPS is awful at doing their rotation and the average tank doesn’t have reprisal on their bar can we simplify them down to 1 button spam with a bloat of other actions then give half the actual useful actions to the other roles

    I’ll gladly take hallowed ground and bloodwhetting off WAR and PLD’s hands given how bad the average tank I see is
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

  10. #90
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Jenova
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Designs a role designated to attract dumb healbots > blames the dumb healbots for flocking into the role.

    Lol.
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