We don't need them anymore.

[RedLolly]

itt: OP is mad they can't gatekeep rewards behind account age in a video game that people physically pay for

This is especially funny to me as I was there from the start and on my fourth account because I've switched hardware several times. It's so silly.

[ServerCollaps]

literally everything gets nerfed over time. Be it raid mounts and titles or crafter relics. Every aspect of the game becomes easier and more accessible over time.
They should have added old pvp rewards long time ago already. Add every old mount for 50k wolf marks and thousands of people would fanatically farm pvp again (which is a good thing and a greater good than the feelings of a hundred pvp elitists)

[FudoMyoo]

I'm sorry that you're upset about this. I truly understand how you feel. For the people (like me) who missed it, I'm glad SE finally balls up make it obtainable again for us in other ways.

I'm sure they will still retain some of the "exclusive" to these bunch of players. (colour? design? title?)

[Shipp]

Of course they care. People always care for things they can't get and look for ways to get them anyway. And if it means they have to constantly complain to SE a lot, they will do it.

This. It reminds me of a child in a candy store who can have their pick of any candy they want except one thing, and then whining because that one thing is off-limits to them. It reeks of childish entitlement.

[kumikosi]

This. It reminds me of a child in a candy store who can have their pick of any candy they want except one thing, and then whining because that one thing is off-limits to them. It reeks of childish entitlement.

That is such a hilarious comparison when this topic is started by someone crying about "quitting" the candy store because the shop owner is letting other people have access to a copy of the candy they have from something that happened years ago. Again. Gatekeeping of items in a payed service game is stupid. FOMO is stupid.

[Shipp]

That is such a hilarious comparison when this topic is started by someone crying about "quitting" the candy store because the shop owner is letting other people have access to a copy of the candy they have from something that happened years ago. Again. Gatekeeping of items in a payed service game is stupid. FOMO is stupid.

I don't even have the set and I can see why they are upset. They spent the time grinding out something they were told would be limited to that time period. If you weren't around for it or didn't want to spend the time on that, you have no reason to complain about not having access to it. Same as the legacy chocobo.

Answer this: Why should FOMO not exist? It drives player engagement to certain content.

[Voidmage]

And yet its the OP that's stamping their feet and throwing their toys away because they'd rather see them in the trash than see them shared, same as any other Feaster who agrees with them.

One wonders if they even deserved their spots at all if this is all it took for them to start crying and screaming. Or maybe they're one of those infamous win-traders? They certainly doesn't strike me as someone with the mettle to fight and climb, buckling and running as they just did, and it's not like they provided any proof of the things they allegedly "earned".

Oh well, guess we'll never know~

As much as I find the whole topic stupid and think those rewards should come back, I want to point out that Araxes was one of the few pvpers back then who actively spoke out on this forum against the blatant win trading.
I wasn't active back then here but was still following the forum (I think it was around 2017 or 2018) and I still remember a thread about it.

So while I don't agree with their stance, I really think they are a someone who earned those rewards fair and square.

Answer this: Why should FOMO not exist? It drives player engagement to certain content.

What drives player engagement is the ability to earn those rewards and not being told it's no longer possible to get them.
The carrot doesn't work if it's only a photograph.

[kumikosi]

Answer this: Why should FOMO not exist? It drives player engagement to certain content.

FOMO is a psychological dark-pattern strategy for injecting artificial scarcity into a gaming system. It is also a terrible strategy for obtaining new players into the game. As Voidmage said. A photograph is not incentive to drive player retention. A new player seeing a series of items and being told "Sorry you didn't play 8 years ago and this was only available for a 4 month period then and will never ever be obtainable by you now." Is not good for getting new players in the door.

[Shipp]

What drives player engagement is the ability to earn those rewards and not being told it's no longer possible to get them.
The carrot doesn't work if it's only a photograph.

Tell me you've never played MMOs before FFXIV without telling me.

The solution to this is to create brand new sets, or carrots, if you will. Not recycle old ones that people worked hard to get under the promise of them being exclusive and limited-time availability only.

[Shipp]

FOMO is a psychological dark-pattern strategy for injecting artificial scarcity into a gaming system. It is also a terrible strategy for obtaining new players into the game. As Voidmage said. A photograph is not incentive to drive player retention. A new player seeing a series of items and being told "Sorry you didn't play 8 years ago and this was only available for a 4 month period then and will never ever be obtainable by you now." Is not good for getting new players in the door.

Tell me any other items besides this pvp set, legacy stuff, and pre-order bonuses that aren't obtainable anymore. Tell me this huge long list. By your logic, they need to bring belts back ASAP to stop this hemmorhaging!