Quote Originally Posted by Lord_Umbra View Post
This thread is basically why we'll never see regions opened to each other JP is very much YTYP Tank = King attitude that in content often see Tanks/healers sit back & let DPS get beat into Oblivion by mobs/bosses for pulling first & mostly only provoke if another player rips aggro since not that players fault that other person pulled & often you'll see DPS puller get vote kicked from content.
If the Tank was one pack we're one packing if they want two packs we're two packing & if want wall to wall we're wall to walling it's always Tanks pace here & those who don't play by that tend to not last long on JP servers, like F some times we might have situations in Alliance sit there for 1-5 minutes because B maybe doesn't want to MT & other two maybe don't either or pay attention so we actually tend to wait outside of CT series very rare see DPS pull.
That's a case of understanding the concept of fair punishment for unfair treatment towards your other party members. Literally every other MMO the party will immediately die if you don't let the tank control the pace of the dungeon. It's literally why it's common courtesy to let the tank control the pace. Half the dungeons (literally, half) in XIV still apply here too. Basic mobs will run a DPS or healer down if too many are pulled by a non-tank. The lower the level you go the worse this gets because Healers end up only having one proper tool and if the tanks damage intake with cooldowns is outpacing it.... whelp.... There you go. In WoW you only ever see someone pulling for a tank if it's a very small pack that they can clearly handle and would want to grab anyway, then they run into the tank AOE so the mobs get spanked. When is this not true? Someone face pulls. It happens. It's very rare someone gets mad about it. It happens sometimes. People deal with it and move on.

People who insist on their way is the only correct way -- which is "I'll just pull for the tank then if they don't want to go faster!" -- have already lost the plot.