New Player Etiquette

[Nyastra]

My gripe is with story/job skippers.

I don’t mind wall-to-wall pulls—I know I can heal them just fine. But running Aurum Vale (of all places) with a tank who dies repeatedly because they don’t know how to tank, despite having that job at level 100 and others mid-level, is beyond frustrating.

I wasn’t even healing this time—we had another healer, clearly new, which is totally fine. But how are we supposed to handle situations like this? The tank kept pulling every mob in sight, refused to use cooldowns, and the healer simply couldn’t keep up. This, of course, frustrates the healer: they’re new, everyone keeps dying, and as the healer, it’s their job to keep the party alive. Meanwhile, the tank is just… facerolling the keyboard, running headfirst into the same problem again and again.

A dungeon that should take, at most, 10 minutes ends up taking 30 because, apparently, nobody can be bothered to use… I don’t know, braincells or something. I can draw no other conclusion than that they’ve job-skipped or MSQ-skipped—because if you actually played the story, you’d know where to go in Aurum Vale and how to tank properly.

I’ve been playing for years, and I still don’t understand why Aurum Vale in particular always seems to bring out this exact scenario—people throwing themselves headfirst into a wall over and over, hoping somehow the outcome will change.

[Shistar]

I don’t mind wall-to-wall pulls—I know I can heal them just fine. But running Aurum Vale (of all places) with a tank who dies repeatedly because they don’t know how to tank, despite having that job at level 100 and others mid-level, is beyond frustrating.

I wasn’t even healing this time—we had another healer, clearly new, which is totally fine. But how are we supposed to handle situations like this? The tank kept pulling every mob in sight, refused to use cooldowns, and the healer simply couldn’t keep up. This, of course, frustrates the healer: they’re new, everyone keeps dying, and as the healer, it’s their job to keep the party alive. Meanwhile, the tank is just… facerolling the keyboard, running headfirst into the same problem again and again.

I'm usually the first one to tell the tank to quit being dumb and use his mits, especially if the same thing happens twice in a row. Sometimes the tank will listen and actually pull smaller or use mits, other times I get ignored / I find out the tank doesn't understand English (or whatever the translator spits out when I try to match their launcher's language) / seems they're not reading the chat and just give the sprout healer my condolences :') you poor things.

I’ve been playing for years, and I still don’t understand why Aurum Vale in particular always seems to bring out this exact scenario—people throwing themselves headfirst into a wall over and over, hoping somehow the outcome will change.

There's something in the air in that place besides the toxic gas, I swear.

[Elephantality]

I’ve been playing for years, and I still don’t understand why Aurum Vale in particular always seems to bring out this exact scenario—people throwing themselves headfirst into a wall over and over, hoping somehow the outcome will change.

Probably one of them is similar to mine once. I mostly tank with Warrior, and I got that to level 80. Yet I realize, I should not level that any further. I should level one of the other tanks. So I think, sure I'll take my Paladin, level 50. I get into a leveling dungeon, and it's Aurum Vale! I realize my gear for Paladin was crap. I realized this as mobs were hitting me hard, and eventually the boss. The party is very patient with me, and we finally get past the first boss, but I die at it. At that point, I tell them thank you for trying, but I have to bow out so they can get a tank that is better geared and won't annoy them further. That was embarrassing. So it's possible some hard focused another tank or another class and didn't realize they should probably have watched a video guide on how to tank before trying.

[Nyastra]

Probably one of them is similar to mine once. I mostly tank with Warrior, and I got that to level 80. Yet I realize, I should not level that any further. I should level one of the other tanks. So I think, sure I'll take my Paladin, level 50. I get into a leveling dungeon, and it's Aurum Vale! I realize my gear for Paladin was crap. I realized this as mobs were hitting me hard, and eventually the boss. The party is very patient with me, and we finally get past the first boss, but I die at it. At that point, I tell them thank you for trying, but I have to bow out so they can get a tank that is better geared and won't annoy them further. That was embarrassing. So it's possible some hard focused another tank or another class and didn't realize they should probably have watched a video guide on how to tank before trying.

Fair, but that's self awareness vs just not giving a damn. Whenever I notice something go awry in dungeons, gear is the first thing I check, whether it be the tank or the healer. That determines what can and cannot be done. So for a tank, geared nonetheless, to run himself stupid into the same walls, that's rather aggravating. I was fortunate enough to not deal with this much when I started healing as I always had people to play with who tanked for me and properly taught me how to heal. Our newbie however, doesn't have that luxury. Unless I commit to constantly tanking my way through ARR - DT.

[VeyaAkemi]

I’ve been playing for years, and I still don’t understand why Aurum Vale in particular always seems to bring out this exact scenario—people throwing themselves headfirst into a wall over and over, hoping somehow the outcome will change.

I feel they do it because they have the experience that it does change, not because they magically improved over the last pull, but because each pull will trim down one or two enemies, until it becomes manageable, and they don't seem to understand that's what happening and not that they performed better all of sudden, of course, that can't happen if you are wiping before any enemies die at all.

[Nyastra]

I feel they do it because they have the experience that it does change, not because they magically improved over the last pull, but because each pull will trim down one or two enemies, until it becomes manageable, and they don't seem to understand that's what happening and not that they performed better all of sudden, of course, that can't happen if you are wiping before any enemies die at all.

You are probably right. I usually play ranged dps, so in this case I know I can kite a few mobs down until I absolutely eat the floor. But lord. I'm tired lmao