New Player Etiquette

[Mawlzy]

Listen, there are level 70 healers standing still and only casting if someone is not topped up. That's not a matter of being bad at the game, that's laziness. You can be awful at the game and even some of the worst tanks I've seen would usually get better when they tried. Dungeons (that are not Criterion!) are content that require zero, and I mean zero skill. A literal 12-year-old could do most of them. You get drip fed easy mechanics from level 1 to 50, by 60 you should know most basics. By 70 you should absolutely be able to know most basic shit, and refusal to do so is honestly just expecting others to carry you through content. Hell, I am godawful at AST but I still press more buttons than round 4 of "oh but my primary job is healing" Andy who doesn't wanna weave after a GCD even though they made everything have a weave slot.

You understand that a 12 year-old is far more able to clear SE's ghastly DDR design than a 60 year-old, right?

[YovelaLindswood]

Listen, there are level 70 healers standing still and only casting if someone is not topped up. That's not a matter of being bad at the game, that's laziness. You can be awful at the game and even some of the worst tanks I've seen would usually get better when they tried. Dungeons (that are not Criterion!) are content that require zero, and I mean zero skill. A literal 12-year-old could do most of them. You get drip fed easy mechanics from level 1 to 50, by 60 you should know most basics. By 70 you should absolutely be able to know most basic shit, and refusal to do so is honestly just expecting others to carry you through content. Hell, I am godawful at AST but I still press more buttons than round 4 of "oh but my primary job is healing" Andy who doesn't wanna weave after a GCD even though they made everything have a weave slot.

This. Even if someones bad I respect them if they actually try. I can forgive wipes in dungeons because the healer died from not knowing the boss. I can forgive a tank that tries the spicy pull in shisui and dies causing a wipe. But this game does have a standard pull. If it didn't they wouldn't have reworked the fun arr dungeons into two pulls and a wall. Forcing three people into a slow run because you don't want to put in the effort to reach the minimum expected level is just lazy and toxic. Tanks that don't want to learn how to mitigate and pull small, healers that don't want to dps(the game is designed around healer dps participation), or dps that don't want to learn their rotations are all problems.

[Gwenkatsu]

"Every player that does not play on my level is lazy. And toxic. And bad. And toxic. TOXXXXIIIICCCCCC!!!!1111!"
- FF14 leet players (at least the vocal ones) -

[miraidensetsu]

If they knew that its the casuals that's keeping this game online...

[Rinoa_353]

If he's already in Endwalker then he should be used to pulling multiple packs. If he wants to go one at at time then used the Duty Support.

Just because you're the tank, doesn't make you the main character. There's 3 other people in the dungeon with you. I'm fine with stopping at the final boss for people to watch the cutscene if they're new, but pick up the pace during the boring trash packs. There's nothing scenic or "storylike" about slowly fighting the same enemies you've seen dozens of times before.

Have you considered some players like taking in the scenery that also tells the story?

[Lorika]

Have you considered some players like taking in the scenery that also tells the story?

The story? Which story?
The one were the tank pull when one healer and one DPS are just entered a long CS? (Totorak and Stone Vigil are the prime offender here)

[YovelaLindswood]

Have you considered some players like taking in the scenery that also tells the story?

I'd actually recommend those players do trusts. The npc dialogue will add a little flair to the run and you can change it up over multiple runs. It also lets you enjoy the scenery at your own pace. But they have to understand that this is still a multiplayer game if they sign up for regular pf. Each player has a goal and the vast majority of people doing the dungeons with players don't want that. I do think its pretty rude to hold up three other people when there is an avenue to play the dungeons to meet their demands even more than with other players.

[Asari5]

im not against giving a first time player more time to enjoy. but i cant do anything when they skip cutscenes on their own or if they dont say anything. im not a mind reader.

wanna look at something? reading the notes along the way? tell me. are you restricted by something? tell me.

use the chat!

[Kozh]

Have you considered some players like taking in the scenery that also tells the story?

Have you considered using Trust if you want to also sightseeing? Or, you know, you can just go back to the start of dungeon after you finish it.

[0blivion]

Also why are people here pretending like Explorer mode doesn't exist?