1.22 - 1.22a - 1.22b changes

[waldo]

I also wanted to test out the new mitigation from a shield on a level 99 goblin headman. With a parry from foresight, my damage taken was reduced from 9999 to 5.7k.

Now this part made me laugh, I chucked Divine Veil on and ran straight to the goblin and partial blocked his attack for 9999.

Should this end the debate about paladin being broken, or at very least warrior being overpowered?
I think yes.

[Aion]

Should this end the debate about paladin being broken, or at very least warrior being overpowered?
I think yes.

we need to spam this quote in General section

[Brannigan]

Should this end the debate about paladin being broken, or at very least warrior being overpowered?
I think yes.

That test doesn't say anything. No shit, Divine Veil triggers normal blocks. Foresight has always buffed your parry power way up. Had he gotten a regular, non-foresight parry he'd probably have taken 9999.

[waldo]

That test doesn't say anything. No shit, Divine Veil triggers normal blocks. Foresight has always buffed your parry power way up. Had he gotten a regular, non-foresight parry he'd probably have taken 9999.

I disagree, I think it says a WHOLE lot. Parry of attacks takes a lot less damage than blocked attacks, there is no way anyone can argue that. This is just another example of that. It's well known that *all* partial parry reduces damage by more than partial shield blocks. That's not new news, it's well documented. I will say though, he would have never gotten a parry if foresight wasn't up, but then again, he would have never gotten a shield block if DV wasn't up either.

[Aceofspades]

I disagree, I think it says a WHOLE lot. Parry of attacks takes a lot less damage than blocked attacks, there is no way anyone can argue that. This is just another example of that. It's well known that *all* partial parry reduces damage by more than partial shield blocks. That's not new news, it's well documented. I will say though, he would have never gotten a parry if foresight wasn't up, but then again, he would have never gotten a shield block if DV wasn't up either.

not even sure why people keep comparing the two... Parry happens far less especially now that devine veil is 100% block rate for 20 seconds on a 60 second cool down, soo 40 seconds after each time you spam devine veild you get another 100% block rate for yet another 20 seconds. Parry is not only completely unpredictable, but for that reason is totaly unreliable. even if parry was 100% of the damage , I would put my money on the ability to purposly time a 100% block rate over the random act of parry.

[Daniel_Fury]

not even sure why people keep comparing the two... Parry happens far less especially now that devine veil is 100% block rate for 20 seconds on a 60 second cool down, soo 40 seconds after each time you spam devine veild you get another 100% block rate for yet another 20 seconds. Parry is not only completely unpredictable, but for that reason is totaly unreliable. even if parry was 100% of the damage , I would put my money on the ability to purposly time a 100% block rate over the random act of parry.

Not looking at parry rate vs block rate. Looking at parry mitigation vs block mitigation.
Which one absorbs more damage.

[Aceofspades]

still dose not matter how much damage parry absorbs if you cant even moderatly predict or control when you parry. Pary vs Block is not only a moot subject but if you wanted to compair the two, block wins on several fronts

1) hands down, block happens more offten even w/o devine veil

2) If you know how to play pld, all i have to say is "devine veil" and thats enough said

3) both 1 and 2 aside ageious boon blows parry out of the water, that ability alone alows you to not only block 100% of the damage from an attack, you can purposly time it for when you need it, it gives HP back and just using that ability as often as you can puts your block rate WAY above your parry rate.

not hard to see BLOCK > PARRY K.O. first round knock out.

[Rexus]

It's already been proven that most (pretty much all) content can be done with 1 healer and a war tank. Due to this, there is never a -need- to have a pld tank. Hell, whms are even nuking in Garuda fights (burn/nonburn) with war tanks, how can you think pld is better than war still?

[Daniel_Fury]

still dose not matter how much damage parry absorbs if you cant even moderatly predict or control when you parry. Pary vs Block is not only a moot subject but if you wanted to compair the two, block wins on several fronts

1) hands down, block happens more offten even w/o devine veil

2) If you know how to play pld, all i have to say is "devine veil" and thats enough said

3) both 1 and 2 aside ageious boon blows parry out of the water, that ability alone alows you to not only block 100% of the damage from an attack, you can purposly time it for when you need it, it gives HP back and just using that ability as often as you can puts your block rate WAY above your parry rate.

not hard to see BLOCK > PARRY K.O. first round knock out.

Yeah I understand this but the mitigation is still important for divine veil. The difference on halving damage from skills like wicked wheel and downburst (I think) in garuda aswell as the auto attacks. It's sexy.

[Daniel_Fury]

That test doesn't say anything. No shit, Divine Veil triggers normal blocks. Foresight has always buffed your parry power way up. Had he gotten a regular, non-foresight parry he'd probably have taken 9999.

Not sure if you even read the post properly and just wanted to add an idiotic reply, but I would just like to once again say:

My partial block mitigated more damage.
My Aegis Boon mitigated more damage.

I added the goblin part because I expected Foresight to mitigate it alot more than that.
1.22 was a big fix to PLD.

EDIT: Taking less damage on Garuda, not the goblin. The goblin test was to see if my partial blocks were a clean 50% cut in damage, which it was not. However, on garuda, all physical attacks that were partially blocked, was a clean 50% damage cut. When parrying on Warrior, I was taking more damage.