Demiatma drop rates are unacceptable

[Poporito_Popoto]

Don't like the relics? Maybe the content isn't for you then!
Don't like forked tower? Maybe the content isn't for you then!
Don't like Cosmic? maybe the content isn't for you then!
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Maybe the game isn't for you then? Just leave if you don't like it!

Yeah I don't know why leave any feedback?

Not sure why anyone would hang around in a game they don't enjoy playing.

[Sani2341]

i did it with normal DT fates in like 3 ish days by doing like 1-2 hours each day, it aint that bad

It's really a mixed bag of rng. Got the first 5 zones done with in a weekend with an average of an hour each. Been grinding just living memory for the past week for about an hour average each day, had my very first of those demiatama drop today

[CCheshire]

Not sure why anyone would hang around in a game they don't enjoy playing.

I mean, that would make up like 90% of the biggest posters here, and the army of titanman maxed gathering alts that are in hiding.

Back on topic, I'm assured that SE will boost the step 1 demiatma drop rates like all the old relics steps have been boosted already. I just wanted to farm them so I'd have it ready for the 2nd step and a reason to visit OC in the first place after buying the big ship mount.

[Its_Kazzy_D]

Don't like the relics? Maybe the content isn't for you then!
Don't like forked tower? Maybe the content isn't for you then!
Don't like Cosmic? maybe the content isn't for you then!
...
Maybe the game isn't for you then? Just leave if you don't like it!

Yeah I don't know why leave any feedback?

This is quite disingenuous. Not all content is for everyone. I really don't like crafting or doing any of the content related to it so I just...don't do it.

There's nothing wrong with giving feedback and as long as it's sensible feedback I don't think people should be dogpiled for it. However, leaving feedback and having that content not be for you aren't mutually exclusive things; especially if the feedback is more less just "this sucks I don't like it" (which to be fair, is what most of the "feedback" on the forums seems to be these days). That being said, if you genuinely don't like anything in the game right now, then maybe the game is, in fact, not the game for you at the moment?

[DiaDeem]

Maybe I just got lucky in the past.

You did. Nothing comes even close to OG Atmas.

[AmiableApkallu]

Don't like the relics? Maybe the content isn't for you then!
Don't like forked tower? Maybe the content isn't for you then!
Don't like Cosmic? maybe the content isn't for you then!
...
Maybe the game isn't for you then? Just leave if you don't like it!

Yeah I don't know why leave any feedback?

The serious answer: You leave feedback about {content} when you feel like {content} was intended for you, but it worked out poorly, or it worked out well, or it landed flat, etc. etc.

The problem is that it's sometimes difficult to determine which "{content} was intended for you."

[Supersnow845]

The thing is that field content is inherently grindy. That’s it intended design. Think 1 set of +2 gear overall costs

-38000 silver
-24000 gold
-15 aetherspun gold
-300 sanguinite

So the idea that the riding map consumes too much silver is just out of whack with the scale of field content’s grind. Also if you don’t like field content then why do you care about spending silver? It’s not like you want the gear anyway. You are fine to not like it and voice criticism that you don’t like it but you also have to understand field content’s scale

The other thing is that phantom actions have more potency than regular actions (you can roughly multiply the actions potency by about 4 to get its true potency give or take a bit based on your gear) so if you get to a fate and it’s dying front load your phantom actions, they do a huge amount of damage

OC has more problems than I can count but if you cannot make it to any fate on time you are doing something wrong and if you are sick of a relic GRIND at knowledge level 13 then you don’t want a relic you want a participation trophy. This is still the second easiest grind we’ve every gotten

[Supersnow845]

I can honestly say I did not derive any "pride" out of doing all the ARR relics, or the steps of the HW ones I've done so far (recently finished getting all the crap for the Anima stage). In fact, it seems a lot of people forgot that even THOSE were "tomestone weapons" given how many thousands of Poetics they actually cost to get all the materials at various points, as well as Company Seals.

And no, I don't think tying relic weapons to Field Operations is any better because Eureka has been some of the most boring content I've ever done, and I doubt Bozja or Occult Crescent is any better.

At that point what do you even want a relic to be considering you don’t like literally any of the current SIX relic designs

If you genuinely just want a tomestone weapon then that already exists, it’s just not a relic

[theunhappypotato]

This is quite disingenuous. Not all content is for everyone. I really don't like crafting or doing any of the content related to it so I just...don't do it.

There's nothing wrong with giving feedback and as long as it's sensible feedback I don't think people should be dogpiled for it. However, leaving feedback and having that content not be for you aren't mutually exclusive things; especially if the feedback is more less just "this sucks I don't like it" (which to be fair, is what most of the "feedback" on the forums seems to be these days). That being said, if you genuinely don't like anything in the game right now, then maybe the game is, in fact, not the game for you at the moment?

sunk cost falacy maybe

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

Relic has been all grindy and optional from beginning, though. For better or worse.

I agree the RNG aspect of Demiatmas are garbage but that is purely because they have 0 badluck proof (just like ARR Atmas both OG & nerfed) & those same gummies are made with only one singular purpose. To change the process into -just- 'tomestone grind' is fundamentally changing what relic grind's supposed to be.