Demiatma drop rates are unacceptable

[Ardeth]

3 2.0 atma’s in a week?

Wasn’t the record for fastest known ARR atma collection in ARR like 3 months

It was an exaggeration, but that's how it felt. It was probably closer to two, but you don't understand how lucky my friend was. He'd of been done with this bullshit like day 2. I just remember he was getting them like candy and moving onto the next zone and I was stuck in the same zone my third Atma for a long long time.

Either way, it was fucking dogshit. Just like this. It's a boring ass zone that's go go go go while a slot machine decides your progress.

There's a reason I'm stuck at 6 sure, but it's because this dogshit is about as fun as laying down in the middle of a busy street. This isn't content. You can white knight all you want, but this isn't content.

Just to clarify Occult Crescent is content. The RNG is what I meant.

[Miguel85NYC]

Idk whats going on with this thread, but I think SE should consider making the atma grind required once per job instead of just once overall. Relics are much more fun to grind when I have to earn them.

100% agree with this

[Ardeth]

Well after 8 hours off and on throughout the weekend of just grinding OC and out in the world I got one...

This is awful. It wouldn't be if I didn't feel like I was absolutely wasting my time doing it.

To all the people who hated the Endwalker process, I hate you with every fiber of my being. A bucket of fish heads for all of you.

They finally nailed the process in Endwalker, but failed by repeating it. This new system so far has been worse than ARR. Probably because you need more and there's only 6 zones instead of 12 and OC is tied into it. OC has better rates, but that place is a miserable hellhole of gimmicks and terrible game design.

Fix the drop rates! If the next step is more grindy bullshit I'm done. Like no more subscription money go kick rocks.

[Supersnow845]

Well after 8 hours off and on throughout the weekend of just grinding OC and out in the world I got one...

This is awful. It wouldn't be if I didn't feel like I was absolutely wasting my time doing it.

To all the people who hated the Endwalker process, I hate you with every fiber of my being. A bucket of fish heads for all of you.

They finally nailed the process in Endwalker, but failed by repeating it. This new system so far has been worse than ARR. Probably because you need more and there's only 6 zones instead of 12 and OC is tied into it. OC has better rates, but that place is a miserable hellhole of gimmicks and terrible game design.

Fix the drop rates! If the next step is more grindy bullshit I'm done. Like no more subscription money go kick rocks.

You are still knowledge level 14

Genuinely what are you doing? Like I’m not even trying to be rude, I’d like to help, but genuinely what are you doing

[Ardeth]

You are still knowledge level 14

Genuinely what are you doing? Like I’m not even trying to be rude, I’d like to help, but genuinely what are you doing

Off and on in OC and the overworld doing FATEs. I can't stomach OC for too long. To be fair I can't stomach the overworld. But the overworld has worse rates so I need to spend more time in OC. It's just my realm is dead so I have to go to a more lively one and I'm lazy. I've basically been logging on and if I see a FATE party I join one or I start my own. I only have 1 zone I don't need so far.

It's just been really boring.

[Shistar]

How would they make it faster exactly? Your post doesn't make any sense to me.
Or are you saying they should suffer more just to prove that they're very supportive or something? That sounds somewhat entitled if that's a thing you'd expect friends to do for you.

Unless I misunderstood, what he meant was likely "a friend would have continued to run FATEs with you until you were done, because one can assume you'd do the same for them if the roles were reversed". My friend group operates the same way.
By running with you, their DPS contributes to the FATE being over quicker, so if they leave you behind not only it sucks because you have to finish farming alone but on top of that it'll be slower too... when my friend needed his last green demiatma, I kept my map open and kept an eye out for any FATEs or CEs that dropped the one he needed, and would taxi us there until he was able to get them all. I know he would have done the same for me.



EDIT: They're also not "suffering" for free, mind you... they still get rewards for participating in a FATE or CE, in or out of Occult Crescent. But I've also farmed duties and FATEs I need nothing from just to help. My friends have done the same for me, because hanging out is also a reward in its own way. I'm not saying your friend must suffer for you, but I am saying it's not a particularly strange thing to see. What the user you're responding to said is nothing odd from my perspective.

[Ardeth]

Unless I misunderstood, what he meant was likely "a friend would have continued to run FATEs with you until you were done, because one can assume you'd do the same for them if the roles were reversed". My friend group operates the same way.
By running with you, their DPS contributes to the FATE being over quicker, so if they leave you behind not only it sucks because you have to finish farming alone but on top of that it'll be slower too... when my friend needed his last green demiatma, I kept my map open and kept an eye out for any FATEs or CEs that dropped the one he needed, and would taxi us there until he was able to get them all. I know he would have done the same for me.



EDIT: They're also not "suffering" for free, mind you... they still get rewards for participating in a FATE or CE, in or out of Occult Crescent. But I've also farmed duties and FATEs I need nothing from just to help. My friends have done the same for me, because hanging out is also a reward in its own way. I'm not saying your friend must suffer for you, but I am saying it's not a particularly strange thing to see. What the user you're responding to said is nothing odd from my perspective.

I'd kill for friends like you in 14. Seriously everyone I've met lately has been out for themselves first. Which is why this has been such hell for me to do it. I've been entirely solo. Even in a group nobody wants to chit chat they don't know you so it's just been rough. And like you, if I were done and you needed one I'd help you and I think FATEs are the worst piece of content in this game and I'd still help a friend get their last one or last 5. I wouldn't care. It's just been so anti-social on my social front if you follow me. This is making this grind torture.

[Shistar]

I'd kill for friends like you in 14. Seriously everyone I've met lately has been out for themselves first. Which is why this has been such hell for me to do it. I've been entirely solo. Even in a group nobody wants to chit chat they don't know you so it's just been rough. And like you, if I were done and you needed one I'd help you and I think FATEs are the worst piece of content in this game and I'd still help a friend get their last one or last 5. I wouldn't care. It's just been so anti-social on my social front if you follow me. This is making this grind torture.

I know your pain. Is there no FC you can try to ask for help in/join and meet new friends? I've also opened FATE farming PFs outside of OC and had people help me speed up the farm that way (when I was farming gemstones/ranks, but if your quest is active you can also get the forbidden OC candy)


Staying polite and positive can be so hard when you're used to people giving you the cold shoulder, but you must present the best version of yourself (not only for others, but for yourself too!). You never know where you'll meet your future best friend, so don't be afraid to strike up conversations! If no one answers that's just their loss :P we try again in the next duty!

[Ardeth]

I know your pain. Is there no FC you can try to ask for help in/join and meet new friends? I've also opened FATE farming PFs outside of OC and had people help me speed up the farm that way (when I was farming gemstones/ranks, but if your quest is active you can also get the forbidden OC candy)


Staying polite and positive can be so hard when you're used to people giving you the cold shoulder, but you must present the best version of yourself (not only for others, but for yourself too!). You never know where you'll meet your future best friend, so don't be afraid to strike up conversations! If no one answers that's just their loss :P We try again in the next duty!

I appreciate it. No the last FC I was in didn't care that I was struggling with it. I kept asking for help and got told maybe later too many times and I quit. It just wasn't good. I have been burned too many times lately so it's hard to jump back into it. Which has made me bitter and that's not fair to the new people I would or could meet.

[Shistar]

I appreciate it. No the last FC I was in didn't care that I was struggling with it. I kept asking for help and got told maybe later too many times and I quit. It just wasn't good. I have been burned too many times lately so it's hard to jump back into it. Which has made me bitter and that's not fair to the new people I would or could meet.

That's fair. If you somehow find yourself in Europe despite the ping, I can ask some FCs about recruitment. I used to play with ~250ms and had no issues myself, but I know it's not a decision made lightly. I hope you find your dream FC/friend group when you are ready to try again!