Modders did it to themselves

[MayuAmakura]

If I would be a dev for the game, e.g. design armor sets, for difficult content or $ - then patch day and everybody wears it next day, makes me feel like... am I really the dev? or somebody outside the company making the decisions over my work? It is a lot of power such a popular mod can have, deciding what players are effectively doing with their time. Is it a MMORPG or a second life simulator disco umbrella game?

Like be happy, we don't have kernel anti cheat spyware. They already let you do what you want. Compare that to WoW

I don't think its just UK btw, it is multiple countries. AI is killing the internet as we know it, and there is an urge to getting control over it right now with more identification and surveillance systems etc. to counter it. All in the name of protecting children, while leading IT security professionals are telling you that it is a pile of ineffective bs, restricting your privacy and security rights. You can probably look up "chat control" yourself in EU, as its being debated this year. A backdoor to everything you say online. Can't wait till some ffxiv player gets police visit for his lalafell nsfw pictures that got automatically flagged by AI, as false positive...What will this say about SE?

EU has a Pegi16 age rating. I think in USA and elsewhere its 13+. I think it should be 16+, I saw too much questionable predatory stuff in partyfinder. Idk if FFXIV likes to get into the news as Roblox did recently. They need to avert damage now proactively, or they face damage to their reputation as company in the future.

Let's not mention how ARR expansion has so many NFSW stuff that is divided into quests, NPC text speech, funny dialogs, golden sauce,etc.

I don't mind it. I think this is great but some people will find this "horrible". I also wonder where is that guy that said that mare is bad for children but ARR quests with porn references isn't?

[Daralii]

EU has a Pegi16 age rating. I think in USA and elsewhere its 13+. I think it should be 16+, I saw too much questionable predatory stuff in partyfinder. Idk if FFXIV likes to get into the news as Roblox did recently. They need to avert damage now proactively, or they face damage to their reputation as company in the future.

Online interactions are not rated by the ESRB. That disclaimer has been on rating labels for decades.

[Rithy255]

Sorry for a double post, but Square has a duty as the owner of the FFXIV to do their best to ensure that the game isn't being used to distribute 18+ material--even if that material isn't from Square themselves. Go complain to several governments if you have an issue with that; it's an issue far out of Square's hands. Unless you want them to go the route of some corn sites and just stop allowing access to the game in certain regions?

I mean I don't care all too much about that I think these new laws are dumb themselves, my point was that taking down that tool doesn't really change anything surrounding that sort of thing from happening (I think the example was like images on social media? frankly your still going to see that).

I can understand why they'd not want those sort of things being accessible due to stricter regulations around the world but this doesn't do a lot to even prevent that in the first place was my main issue (not the morality of it nor my personal beliefs).

[caffe_macchiato]

Someone posted porn right above the blog post:

[Its_Kazzy_D]

I know I certainly came to regret buying anything out of the mogstation when I realized the Warden's Set cut off my tail.

"Should have read the fine print" doesn't change the fact that glamour has gotten so bad that it routinely removes my racial features, and any items that do this are not worth obtaining in-game or buying.
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It's worse than that, if Sqaure-Enix is caving to censorship so readily, it won't be long before their own in-game content becomes subject of outrage. If people were to start spamming the 2B pants and Beeknees all over social media instead of modded stuff, how long until the nannies come back complaining about that too?

Square-Enix didn't get the prudes off their back, they flung the door wide open for them to come after something else.
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You're right, absolutely no child should be playing this smutty game filled with half-naked catgirls ...these are all in-game and not-modded items by the way. So if we're really going to play puritan police here, the game ITS SELF is going to draw unwanted attention over censorship without even needing Mare to do any damage.

I don't think people here are understanding that Square-Enix has now set a precedent, and a lot more stuff, both mods and in-game, will need to be purged to abide by this new standard of "child friendly".

I'm sorry, but you're being deliberately obtuse here. 18+ conent and outfits showing skin aren't the same thing. The laws referred to in the statement are explicitly going for the former and not the latter. As I've stated before, unless you want Square to start restricting access to FF14 in certain states, countries, etc they have to crack down if it's becoming "known" that their game is being used to distribute 18+ material without age checks being implemented, even if it's exclusively on the side of modders.

[Clerith]

The game is rated 12+ in my country. And we still distinguish between bikinis, sexually explicit references, and nudity.
And while I've seen some questionable examples (like the dungeon with the pirates), those dialogues have long since been changed in my version of the game or weren't there to begin with.

Also, the outfits posted previously are skimpy, but the context of their use is important. While I think some people might consider this a step too far and call for censorship, it's still extremely harmless compared to what many modders use.

And being in Mare/Syncshells is definitely much more harmful and explicit, and has also led to more mod use and abuse. Even the Mare creator said that public syncshells were a mistake and that he's lost some faith in humanity after all the things he's seen.
Also... regarding "I've never met a character under 18."
You mean you've never met a minor in the game?
Or that all RP players simply state that their character is 18, even if they use the appearance of a Miqote kitten in combination with sexual acts?

And yes, that's a thing. And when it comes to allowing all mods or no mods, it's crystal clear what the right choice is.
But as always... S.E. is taking careful steps... for better or worse.

[Kahnha]

SQEX definitely can't afford to have their game and money making machine shut down in the EU cause they turn a blind eye to some 200k Mare user's and a bunch of idiots who -for the love of god- can't keep their porn-loving intentions to themselves and rather flood social media with this degenerated bs.

Tbh the internet should not censor itself because the EU decided what we could and could not see online maybe they should go the china route and wall their citizens off from the rest of the net so they don't have to worry about their kids (that are being abducted by groomer gangs) seeing boobas online.

Imagine having a 12 yo begging you as the parent to allow them yo play FF14. You google the game and come across these porn pics. Would in all good conscience and common sense you really let your kid play this game?
I definitely wouldn't.

People have made pron of mine craft so if you search for that you would also be put off from minecraft, street fighter, pokemon anything if it is on the internet there is unsavory content of it.

the internet is not and never has been a safe place for children, parents should be keenly aware of what their kids are looking at and be ready to protect them at all times the gov should have no place in that because it often does not work. xD

here in america the ESRB raiting for XIV is T for teen IIrc and like all ESRB ratings online interactions are not monitored square is not responsible for the content online best they could do is ban the people actively advertising and airing out bad behavior in he game's public areas. the common sense route.

you would make a good parent if you see pron in the game; easy don't let them play the game, doubly so if you do not plan to monitor them while they play.
Have your children play single player games or games without a means of communication try bopl battle that is a good game for children. :3

[Oizen]

Someone posted porn right above the blog post:

I do not believe XIV is going to stop the gooners or the influx of porn around their game with their response.

[Commander_Justitia]

Also... regarding "I've never met a character under 18."

So I am not the only one who thought that sounded questionable xD

When you are in that way of thinking that certain roleplayers have, that they do not consider the real age important, but the age of the 'character'...yes, red flag.
Pushed forward as some kind of excuse as if it is suddenly okay to do because you have mod 'consent', boy - you are walking on thin ice. Borderline gaslighting fantasy with reality.
Already this luring sh!t with "come get free 1million gil as prize to our 18+ event" or pfs like "are you alone and need to talk to someone?? what is your favorite color? lets chat" during summer vacation, early hours, when parents are working obviously - just ban and report this... those guys know exactly what they are doing. Let a GM check their dm.
Sorry for the people who are honest and genuine with it, but obviously this is being used by persons who want to have plausible deniability when attracting minors.

Wonder why no RP category in the partyfinder exists, would force people to use that instead of posting it in shout (sometimes paid by RMT gil) or under "Other".
Would also be cool to have a big global chat channel next to novice chat, to also include people that are not mentor or sprout. I thought fellowships were intended for that. Like why were they left like this and not upgraded with a chat? Everyone wants a fellowship chat...and not just a board/blog.
Hyped, released, abandoned. A reoccurring pattern.

[Uzephi]

You had to WILLINGLY subjact yourself to see this.
Also sex is normal part of life and usually part of the character arc. Never have I encountered a character that is younger than 18, and most seem to understand the implications and deal with dark content respectfully. Most of that content is also confined to party chat and within the RP community.
Alos IC =/= OOC.

Explain that to the officer, 'their character was over 18, we were just ERPing.' that won't fly if the person behind that character was under 18. IC =/= OOC? Yeah, have fun in court with that.