Modders did it to themselves

[Its_Kazzy_D]

I know I certainly came to regret buying anything out of the mogstation when I realized the Warden's Set cut off my tail.

"Should have read the fine print" doesn't change the fact that glamour has gotten so bad that it routinely removes my racial features, and any items that do this are not worth obtaining in-game or buying.
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It's worse than that, if Sqaure-Enix is caving to censorship so readily, it won't be long before their own in-game content becomes subject of outrage. If people were to start spamming the 2B pants and Beeknees all over social media instead of modded stuff, how long until the nannies come back complaining about that too?

Square-Enix didn't get the prudes off their back, they flung the door wide open for them to come after something else.
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You're right, absolutely no child should be playing this smutty game filled with half-naked catgirls ...these are all in-game and not-modded items by the way. So if we're really going to play puritan police here, the game ITS SELF is going to draw unwanted attention over censorship without even needing Mare to do any damage.

I don't think people here are understanding that Square-Enix has now set a precedent, and a lot more stuff, both mods and in-game, will need to be purged to abide by this new standard of "child friendly".

I'm sorry, but you're being deliberately obtuse here. 18+ conent and outfits showing skin aren't the same thing. The laws referred to in the statement are explicitly going for the former and not the latter. As I've stated before, unless you want Square to start restricting access to FF14 in certain states, countries, etc they have to crack down if it's becoming "known" that their game is being used to distribute 18+ material without age checks being implemented, even if it's exclusively on the side of modders.

[Clerith]

The game is rated 12+ in my country. And we still distinguish between bikinis, sexually explicit references, and nudity.
And while I've seen some questionable examples (like the dungeon with the pirates), those dialogues have long since been changed in my version of the game or weren't there to begin with.

Also, the outfits posted previously are skimpy, but the context of their use is important. While I think some people might consider this a step too far and call for censorship, it's still extremely harmless compared to what many modders use.

And being in Mare/Syncshells is definitely much more harmful and explicit, and has also led to more mod use and abuse. Even the Mare creator said that public syncshells were a mistake and that he's lost some faith in humanity after all the things he's seen.
Also... regarding "I've never met a character under 18."
You mean you've never met a minor in the game?
Or that all RP players simply state that their character is 18, even if they use the appearance of a Miqote kitten in combination with sexual acts?

And yes, that's a thing. And when it comes to allowing all mods or no mods, it's crystal clear what the right choice is.
But as always... S.E. is taking careful steps... for better or worse.

[Aidorouge]

I'm sorry, but you're being deliberately obtuse here. 18+ conent and outfits showing skin aren't the same thing. The laws referred to in the statement are explicitly going for the former and not the latter. As I've stated before, unless you want Square to start restricting access to FF14 in certain states, countries, etc they have to crack down if it's becoming "known" that their game is being used to distribute 18+ material without age checks being implemented, even if it's exclusively on the side of modders.

The game is rated 12+ in my country. And we still distinguish between bikinis, sexually explicit references, and nudity.
And while I've seen some questionable examples (like the dungeon with the pirates), those dialogues have long since been changed in my version of the game or weren't there to begin with.

Also, the outfits posted previously are skimpy, but the context of their use is important. While I think some people might consider this a step too far and call for censorship, it's still extremely harmless compared to what many modders use.

Except those laws WON'T stop at the former and WILL go after the latter in due time, just like how they weren't content to go after only specific types of fictional porn but instead kept widening the net on which fetishes were acceptable targets. It went from loli/shota bans to furry/monster girl within weeks on some websites.

Do you really think the nannies are only going to take an inch and not a mile after you gave them as many inches as they asked for? You're even playing right into their own rulebook by using the old "oh won't somebody please think of the children" card. And it's not that I WANT censorship, but rather censorship is inevitable if the only criteria to get something removed is that some pearl-clutching prude thought it was icky (and trust me, they think a LOT of things are icky).

Hell, the Reddit post showing off those first two pictures? It's BLOCKED for some UK posters, so in some places the law HAS ALREADY started coming for the latter, because in their eyes, these glamour pieces are equally bad as actual porn because prudence does not make exceptions with regards to indecency. One of you even admitted that their version of the game is censored already, and you can bet the Chinese client will be getting scrubbed too of certain items and text, or even locations. (It wasn't long ago that I finally reached Eulmore with an area set aside for literal stripper poles and dancers)

By all accounts if Mare is bad, then the things I'm walking around in right now will be deemed so as well, or should be banned already if Square-Enix upheld any sense of consistency with their ToS or their compliance with laws in other countries, or how they've got a MUCH longer list of mods to C&D if they're trying to stop people from making themselves look or do NSFW things in-game.

My problem will always be the self-righteous hypocrisy of it all, that I can sensually dance around half-naked anywhere but that's somehow "totally appropriate for 12 year olds" to not only see BUT DO THEMSELVES using the same things, but this one mod, which doesn't even include any actual NSFW content but simply allowed people to share those mods was somehow "too far". I bloody refuse to act like "rules for thee not for me" by pretending like what I'm doing is perfectly fine relative to what they did based on the reasons given for Mare's banning, and by all accounts I'm equally guilty of inappropriateness and "forcing" others to see it without needing to resort to mods at all.

[BlisteringFrost]

Except those laws WON'T stop at the former and WILL go after the latter in due time, just like how they weren't content to go after only specific types of fictional porn but instead kept widening the net on which fetishes were acceptable targets. It went from loli/shota bans to furry/monster girl within weeks on some websites.

Do you really think the nannies are only going to take an inch and not a mile after you gave them as many inches as they asked for? You're even playing right into their own rulebook by using the old "oh won't somebody please think of the children" card. And it's not that I WANT censorship, but rather censorship is inevitable if the only criteria to get something removed is that some pearl-clutching prude thought it was icky (and trust me, they think a LOT of things are icky).

Hell, the Reddit post showing off those first two pictures? It's BLOCKED for some UK posters, so in some places the law HAS ALREADY started coming for the latter, because in their eyes, these glamour pieces are equally bad as actual porn because prudence does not make exceptions with regards to indecency. One of you even admitted that their version of the game is censored already, and you can bet the Chinese client will be getting scrubbed too of certain items and text, or even locations. (It wasn't long ago that I finally reached Eulmore with an area set aside for literal stripper poles and dancers)

By all accounts if Mare is bad, then the things I'm walking around in right now will be deemed so as well, or should be banned already if Square-Enix upheld any sense of consistency with their ToS or their compliance with laws in other countries, or how they've got a MUCH longer list of mods to C&D if they're trying to stop people from making themselves look or do NSFW things in-game.

My problem will always be the self-righteous hypocrisy of it all, that I can sensually dance around half-naked anywhere but that's somehow "totally appropriate for 12 year olds" to not only see BUT DO THEMSELVES using the same things, but this one mod, which doesn't even include any actual NSFW content but simply allowed people to share those mods was somehow "too far". I bloody refuse to act like "rules for thee not for me" by pretending like what I'm doing is perfectly fine relative to what they did based on the reasons given for Mare's banning, and by all accounts I'm equally guilty of inappropriateness and "forcing" others to see it without needing to resort to mods at all.

The law in Japan is pretty clear about it my duder.

It is illegal to modify (mod) a video game and present it publicly, as it advertises a product that does not exist.

Yoshida has said multiple times. "Do not mention Fight Club and we won't notice it happening." If you need this to be any more simple, you need professional help and I am not paid to provide this so it will not be from me.