Post Duty damage meter

[jonimated]

As someone who plays on console and can't use addons I appreciate being grouped with people using ACT. I like the ability to look at my logs and see how well I did on any particular fight. See where I need to improve.

I do wish there was at the very least a personal dps meter and rating in game. Just the ability to see how you're doing without having to use an external source.

[MsMisato]

After PVP matches there is a post stat chart with kills, deaths, healing done ect when the duty is Complete. There seems to be no toxic behavior that I have encountered with it being displayed at the end of the duty. For those players that have been around for over a decade PVP was extremely toxic and that's the reason chat is muted in CC matches.

I know having a damage meter during content is Divisive for people but I dont see the harm in letting people know post completion how things worked out in the run. This would be a stepping stone to seeing how the community would react to a change.

would you all be on board with a post completion stat tracker ? I think its a good idea

I cna't tell if you're trolling or not because you been on here since 2017. duty finder or not, that stuff would get real toxic real fast. even before ACT people become toxic during 2.0 if you weren't dpsing or tanking correctly. I rather SE focus on other things. Damage meters are the least of their priorities. things are a ok right now. If anything they need to put back dps checks in dungeons and scale them appropriately to ilevel for the party.

[MsMisato]

People always think "Oh no i get harassed because there is now a DPS Meter" and forget the fact a DPS Meter is one of the most important Tools to see improvements, the same with FFLogs for now, the way Combat in Final works with the Snapshotting is incredible bad, without FFLogs you just cant get enough Informations and dont come me with "read the battlelog" everyone which says now he goes through thousand of lines with Battlelogs are straight up liar.

so yes i want a dps meter even if it means after the duty, even if it means only a dps meter which shows MY stats, so long its accurate it would be great

don't bring up fflogs or third party tools. SE will go after that next. no one learns do they.

[AmiableApkallu]

A damage meter is useful only if it comes with some reference point for evaluating high vs. low — and that reference point would, ideally, take into account job, ilvl, melds, crit variance, etc.

Otherwise, you might as well show me random numbers for all that's worth.

(And that's to say nothing of the next question, "Why is my damage bad?", something that's difficult to answer without the ability to analyze what happened when over the course of an encounter…)

[MayuAmakura]

Do you really believe that PvP matches statistics don't create toxicity? Oh my sweet summer child...

First of all, CC is a very small community of people. They almost all know each other besides a few sprouts. These "well-known" people will look upon how you did, then match you with ignore mark the next game if you come into their team and potentially troll or afk the whole match.

Then these people will go on discord server made for ffxiv online pvp where they will brag about how you were bad, name and shame you and then screenshot whenever you go, see your char and much stalking involved.

So thinking that pvp is very safe is just not true. People will shame, mark you and do emotes on your body. Unless you are in group with them and they know you.

[AvoSturmfaust]

don't bring up fflogs or third party tools. SE will go after that next. no one learns do they.

none of them costs square money or shows off nfsw content, and there was older screens which showed on a LL that yoshi had act on his desktop, so the possibility is so small that this will happen

[Roda]

-and there was older screens which showed on a LL that yoshi had act on his desktop, so the possibility is so small that this will happen

? As far as I'm aware, the only pic of that that exists is an edited meme screenshot.

[Anatha]

Depends what type of info if you're talking for pve, because the damage tallies in pvp are a lot less relevant especially considering that class pick, team composition, and whether or not you spend your time defending/frontlining vs actually pew-pewing to your heart's content will wildly affect this. Padding is also a thing, and you can perfectly have crazy high numbers but actually contribute so little to actual moves that matters or securing/assisting kills that it's far from telling the whole story. If anything, the pve habits (keep casting, keep things on cd etc) are generally the hint of poor pvp play, but good scoreboard padding.

On the other hand, pve is just about damage damage damage and even more damage. It has zero depth and no variables (beyond gear differences and limitations), so a pve DPS meter is absolutely not comparable.



It actually didn't, for the reasons I mentioned above. The reason people are toxic in pvp is like for any competitive online pvp game, they get mad at teamates for all the reasons in the world, be it teamates making genuine mistakes to just imagining that all their woes come from another teamate. Chat got toxic in Feast before the scoreboard appeared.

Not the point being made. There is no scenario where you can add an element like this to the pve aspect of the game and it not result in toxicity.

Get over it.

[AvoSturmfaust]

Not the point being made. There is no scenario where you can add an element like this to the pve aspect of the game and it not result in toxicity.

Get over it.

Thats not even true, like i said previous, add a dps meter which shows only YOUR OWN DPS and Stats/Casts etc etc etc now you can compare yourself with other Vipers which arent against it, so where is now the toxicity?

And even if they would add a full group dps meter which sadly wont happen why are people so afraid of it? Are they worried because people could see that they press only 1 button every 10s, i said it so often nobody expect that people play like a god, only to carry the own weight thats not toxic thats normal human behaviour

[switchhitter]

I think a personal rating or score shown to you at the end to allow you to know how you're doing would be really nice. Bonus if you can enable it yourself, as an opt-in for those who want it. I sometimes wonder 'am I doing OK?' with my class, and being on the PS5 I have no way of accessing some of the tools that PC users have to measure themselves. I know stone/sky/sea can give you a very general idea, but it'd be nice for something more in-depth.