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    Darty123's Avatar
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    Post Duty damage meter

    After PVP matches there is a post stat chart with kills, deaths, healing done ect when the duty is Complete. There seems to be no toxic behavior that I have encountered with it being displayed at the end of the duty. For those players that have been around for over a decade PVP was extremely toxic and that's the reason chat is muted in CC matches.

    I know having a damage meter during content is Divisive for people but I dont see the harm in letting people know post completion how things worked out in the run. This would be a stepping stone to seeing how the community would react to a change.

    would you all be on board with a post completion stat tracker ? I think its a good idea
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    Hexterian's Avatar
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    Hannya Bou
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    You can kinda read how well a party is doing in a duty through enmity list and how quick stuff dies. If healer is second in enmity then dps obviously are undergeared or don't understand their rotation (or both). With enough game sense/experience you can tell without any overview at the end what could've gone better.

    Some folk also just put blinders on for their roulette reward (lord knows those are just as common in Frontlines). Add that results would be too varied, things like role, gear, melds, knowing how to optimize, and understanding of mechanics. Newbie might be given the idea they're performing poorly when they're just learning a new boss and had just enough ilvl to queue.

    I don't expect an end of duty stat overview to bring much change other than make the game bleed casuals, and as of right now they probably don't want more to drop.
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    Katarh Mest
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    There was that one boss in Lapis Manalis that gave your party a grade based on the kill speed. As a mechanic, it worked since that doll was a battle instructor for reapers. Most PF parties with no deaths would get a score of 7. A party with a death or two would get a 12. Getting a score of 1 required hacking the dungeon with 4 BiS DPS on release, iirc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimforth View Post
    My God are people this desperate for damage meters? Even if the duty is already done, what's stopping someone from going off on a DPS for doing poor dps or a Healer for barely healing or a tank for taking way too much damage without using mitigations?
    The fact that they can get reported to a GM for doing so after the fact, for one.
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  6. #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimforth View Post
    My God are people this desperate for damage meters? Even if the duty is already done, what's stopping someone from going off on a DPS for doing poor dps or a Healer for barely healing or a tank for taking way too much damage without using mitigations?
    There is no desperation at all in my post, I am simply asking for thoughts and feedback. Yikes
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    Lotte Yanson
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimforth View Post
    My God are people this desperate for damage meters? Even if the duty is already done, what's stopping someone from going off on a DPS for doing poor dps or a Healer for barely healing or a tank for taking way too much damage without using mitigations?
    Whats stopping? the TOS just like they do right now?
    If you hunt someone you get the hammer...
    Is it so hard to imagine that some people like to compete with friends in a friendly manner or evaluate your personal performance for yourself to improve yourself?
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    Ana Nuann
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    Jenova
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Darty123 View Post
    After PVP matches there is a post stat chart with kills, deaths, healing done ect when the duty is Complete. There seems to be no toxic behavior that I have encountered with it being displayed at the end of the duty. For those players that have been around for over a decade PVP was extremely toxic and that's the reason chat is muted in CC matches.

    I know having a damage meter during content is Divisive for people but I dont see the harm in letting people know post completion how things worked out in the run. This would be a stepping stone to seeing how the community would react to a change.

    would you all be on board with a post completion stat tracker ? I think its a good idea
    They had to disable chat due to toxicity and you think that somehow had nothing to do with the scoreboard?

    Buddy, get real. It absolutely did. Hell, people use the social list to harass people afterwards.

    You want that for *all* content? Just no more chat or people being gone after because they weren't top deeps in halatali?

    Because people who would do that exist in numbers that are sickening on this game.
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    It will not be used for those purposes. You know that, so perhaps find some sincerity on the matter.
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Jenova
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    It's as if their GMs are all too busy doing something that they can't uphold their own ToS... yeah.. some underground popoto farming in starting cities, perhaps.

    I'm ambivalent overall. Ppl will get shitty for other reasons so long they're shitty at the core. On the other hand, there's also "send ss of your scoreboard".
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    Sy Der
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    Gunbreaker Lv 66
    It would be really good to have a dps meter in the game, that way you can see if one person is holding the other 7 back. You can then remove them and get another person that will help clear the fight.
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