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  1. #71
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teno View Post
    You're not going in enough to notice the big change then.
    Gnb kda of 10/0/34 in a game I just played. 2nd most kills, 3rd most assists out of everyone. I think I'm fine but I appreciate your valuable input.
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  2. #72
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    Altria Pendragons
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exmo View Post
    Gnb kda of 10/0/34 in a game I just played. 2nd most kills, 3rd most assists out of everyone. I think I'm fine but I appreciate your valuable input.
    The current GNB mechanics have better synergy with the NA/EU Horde Stampede meta, and most casual players tend to pick targets that are easier to kill.
    If a player’s assist ratio is 50% higher than their kill count, they’re likely just tabbing for the kill rather than contributing meaningfully.
    It’s hard to make casuals—and even some veterans—realize that tanks are easy to kill within the first three minutes, and should be prioritized to prevent their Battle High from building up.
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  3. #73
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valence View Post
    Raiju is like any stun or silence, in CC if you need to get out of dodge immediately else you get oneshot, you purify, period. You just need to keep in mind that a second one is probably coming not long after when your purify expires (so 2s after which is nothing), and potentially a third if you're playing against min maxers.
    Raiju isn’t a guard breaker.
    Trading Raiju’s 1-second stun for 5,000 MP (especially when you still have to wait four seconds before you can use Purify again) isn’t a good trade.
    What happened to Guard as an option?
    As I’ve said, it’s your personal choice, and I’m not here to question it.

    It’s fine if you disagree with my take; I’m simply presenting my perspective along with my supporting arguments.
    You can certainly do the same and present your own reasoning.
    Overall, the reception to the new Purify change has been negative across all four regions—that much I can concur with.
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  4. #74
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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemights View Post
    The current GNB mechanics have better synergy with the NA/EU Horde Stampede meta, and most casual players tend to pick targets that are easier to kill.
    If a player’s assist ratio is 50% higher than their kill count, they’re likely just tabbing for the kill rather than contributing meaningfully.
    It’s hard to make casuals—and even some veterans—realize that tanks are easy to kill within the first three minutes, and should be prioritized to prevent their Battle High from building up.
    Given that I played that match and I was actually there seeing how I was playing, I can assure you I was sufficiently in the fray to notice changes to purify.
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  5. #75
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exmo View Post
    Given that I played that match and I was actually there seeing how I was playing, I can assure you I was sufficiently in the fray to notice changes to purify.
    Post #35 in this thread.
    Like I said, you are range and you won't feel it much in Frontline
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  6. #76
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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemights View Post
    Post #35 in this thread.
    Like I said, you are range and you won't feel it much in Frontline
    Except I wasn't playing ranged. Remove thy tinfoil hat.
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  7. #77
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exmo View Post
    Except I wasn't playing ranged. Remove thy tinfoil hat.
    You can play wherever you want.
    My response is based on your past posts—you post here a lot and reveal quite a bit about yourself.
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  8. #78
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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemights View Post
    Raiju isn’t a guard breaker.
    Trading Raiju’s 1-second stun for 5,000 MP (especially when you still have to wait four seconds before you can use Purify again) isn’t a good trade.
    What happened to Guard as an option?
    As I’ve said, it’s your personal choice, and I’m not here to question it.

    It’s fine if you disagree with my take; I’m simply presenting my perspective along with my supporting arguments.
    You can certainly do the same and present your own reasoning.
    Overall, the reception to the new Purify change has been negative across all four regions—that much I can concur with.
    Why are we moving the goalposts to guard breakers (that are found, AGAIN, both on the melee and ranged side, actually thrice more on the melee's side, by the way)? What guard option are you talking about?

    1s may also save your life at high level in CC. Whether or not you'll need it again for the second stun, if the stun doesn't occur before purify is up again, is another story.
    If you're speaking about FL, maybe, maybe not, I don't know. I never know for sure what mode you're talking about.
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  9. #79
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    Dendriel Concade
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    CC, as in Crowd Control, has just gotten even worse than before, and like it was already bad with most classes having access to at least 1-3 Soft/Hard CC to get brutalized by but its just so much worse now. With it being a resource, they nerfed its up-time which means there is now even less time to handle getting out of things without getting hit by another CC, plus its practically -15,000 HP on use. None of this would be an issue if they removed most of the harder CCs from all the classes and replaced them with softer ones, and leave the hard CC to Limits or long CDs but they wont. PvP is fundamentally flawed that balance is the way it is, where every class is potentially capable of 1v1ing any other class but some classes just have more options that give them better range to tackle whatever issues they're dealing with. I honestly would rather have the Shadowbringers system of being stuck eating the first CC and then getting 10s Immunity to the current system, and even the last iteration too with how much we potentially need to wade through not getting chain-CC'd to oblivion let alone how much damage some of the CC buttons also do. Guard doesn't even feel good to use since its also shorter compared to the 5s(now 4s) it used to be, and it feels like its not as snappy right now, so we're losing more and more ground to fight against CC when most classes are also doing massive burst damage to you as well, so its a lose/lose if you get enough people to run up to you at once between Crystal Conflict or Frontline even moreso.
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    Last edited by DendrielConcade; 08-14-2025 at 04:41 AM. Reason: "There is now" than "There are now"

  10. #80
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    Balmung Griffin
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    Sargatanas
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    As a DRG, it just feels like everyone got a buff and we're collecting Ls
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