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    Atma's Avatar
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    Shiari Eventide
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    Excalibur
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Bryson View Post
    No that's reductive... as I said earlier, I played casually arr - sb (alphascape)... at no point during that time (ft undergrad and also working ft) did I unironically think the game's content wasn't "for me."
    I still did savage here and there via pf, stil pursued relic weapons etc etc.. Did i clear things a lot slower? of course, I was playing casually. Was I able to still do the content? 100% yes.

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    Here's what we'll do - I'll take a moment and for the sake of the discussion - even though I don't agree with you, I will grant your position for the conversation. I don't agree with it in principle because culturally there is a significant 'take what you are given and don't complain even if you hate it' difference in mindset, but let's roll with it for a moment.

    What changes for me? I'm an NA player. Are you going to change the mindset of NA players? Am I? Are people going to stop kicking people from groups because "Bryson on the forums says 'this content should be available to people playing casually and we should just bear with it'"? No. It's not. Whether you like it or not, the NA 'raiding' culture is what it is. And it's not going to change just because you, or I, want it to be different. Sure, there's a limited amount of availability and short duration where 'learning parties' exist in the duty finder, but that's still typically going to expect that you've studied an external video, memorized a strategy for a 10 minute fight, and then are able to quickly start to be able to execute that strategy cause if you can't, there's a dozen other people waiting to take that spot who might be able to do it better. People are also parsing you, judging you even if they're smart enough not to say anything, because they continue to refuse to obscure that data and make parsing impossible.

    This is the same argument that people have been making for multiple expansion packs. "Savage is midcore because Japanese players clear it." Yeah well, Japanese players aren't NA players and NA players want easy clears, not to teach someone new how to do it. Most NA groups will cancel a prog night rather than take along someone new because they aren't interested. My own BROTHER, as in flesh and blood sibling, won't even let me fill in for an absence because none of the rest of his group is interested in starting from square 1 if someone can't make it, they'd rather just skip the night.

    And at the end of the day, none of that even answers the fundamental question of "am I having fun." So no, not buying the argument. The fact 'back in the day' you shoehorned yourself into some groups and cleared some savage content - most likely in the capacity of 'being carried months after it ceased being relevant content' - does not change my mind in the slightest. And yeah, I also 'progressed' on my relic back in the ARR days. I was carried and have no issues admitting that.
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    Last edited by Atma; 07-30-2025 at 08:12 AM.