Thread: Please confirm if there will be a 7.5 Ultimate before next Savage Release

(Even though 7.4 is about 5 months away, I thought this was a good time to post this with the Ultimate delay announcement being somewhat recent)


It would be really nice to know going into this last savage tier if there will be an ultimate tied to it. With the announcement that occurred in LL part 1 for 7.3, raiders were clearly disappointed with some even feeling they wasted time gearing and prepping for content that wasn't coming out. I understand committing to a date right now could break expectations again (ex: DSR delayed twice), but it should be known by 7.4 LL if the ultimate will be delayed to 8.1 or not.

The last tier is normally not tied to an ultimate, so I feel that hiding this information for a boost in "engagement" with the content isn't worth burning the community again. Let players have proper expectations of what to expect with the final set of floors. Let players "play other games" if they don't want to prog a savage tier with no ultimate.

the worst part is neither side are happy either like raiders just got Shafted casual get well mostly shafted but feel like DT have been... wait allow me to correct myself just horrendous overall poor story content being weirdly released like I think that right now there is so many fixing needed that they have no clue what to do. remember they promised a new deep dungeon beast master and even variant. Yet we haven't seen variant and OC FT is a mess pushing casual away of it and raiders annoyed because casual get in.


I was excited for OC not gonna lie I think field op are a good middle ground for both casual and hardcore and often turn some casual to hardcore like in Bozja and zadnor have done. but OC isn't able to do that due to how well insane FT is and if a wipe happen well wait need time the weather happen.


FT to me should have been like Castrum and dal from Shadowbringer and then have a harder version that you can que outside with a group the limitate Rez and everything FT is

Originally Posted by Nero-Voidstails

remember they promised a new deep dungeon beast master and even variant.

We haven't heard more about beastmaster (though that was always thought it would be 7.5 with BLU updates) but they did mention in the last LL that they were working on Variant and Criterion for 7.4

Originally Posted by TaleraRistain

We haven't heard more about beastmaster (though that was always thought it would be 7.5 with BLU updates) but they did mention in the last LL that they were working on Variant and Criterion for 7.4

Blu usually updates in the x.4.5... I find highly unlikely they'll release Bst together with Blu's update and most likely gonna "save" it for 7.5.1 or 7.5.5.

Originally Posted by Nero-Voidstails

the worst part is neither side are happy either like raiders just got Shafted casual get well mostly shafted but feel like DT have been... wait allow me to correct myself just horrendous overall poor story content being weirdly released like I think that right now there is so many fixing needed that they have no clue what to do. remember they promised a new deep dungeon beast master and even variant. Yet we haven't seen variant and OC FT is a mess pushing casual away of it and raiders annoyed because casual get in.


I was excited for OC not gonna lie I think field op are a good middle ground for both casual and hardcore and often turn some casual to hardcore like in Bozja and zadnor have done. but OC isn't able to do that due to how well insane FT is and if a wipe happen well wait need time the weather happen.


FT to me should have been like Castrum and dal from Shadowbringer and then have a harder version that you can que outside with a group the limitate Rez and everything FT is

Why should they include a normal FT just because casuals want one? Casuals should learn how to play the game properly; otherwise, they disrupt other players' experiences. /s

They said the other Ultimate is currently in the works. Given there is probably a year and a half until the next expansion, it would be odd for it to take longer than that.

I think the reason the other one got delayed was because of Covid and the delayed assets and challenging conditions they had back then, combined with them being busy with MSQ development. Since then, they've been hiring battle designers like crazy as well, and are even hiring them right now.

I think the reason they usually don't do it after 7.3 is because that's when the development of the next expansion actually begins. They start making all the leveling dungeons, zones, models, and so on, so their team can be too stretched to focus on that. But with the increased amount of time for an expansion, people being used to covid now, and the increased battle designers, hopefully it won't take that long this time.

Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

Since then, they've been hiring battle designers like crazy as well, and are even hiring them right now.

I really wish Square Enix would put those to work in FFXIV, so we can finally move away from left right stack spread.

Originally Posted by brinn12

I really wish Square Enix would put those to work in FFXIV, so we can finally move away from left right stack spread.

The battle designers they have been hiring like crazy even during Endwalker have been for FFXIV because it shows an actual picture of the FFXIV ARR logo. I would show a picture but the position actually just filled for now.

It's likely why they're finding it easier to make more battle and raid content like Criterion, Chaotic, FT, the new deep dungeon and its raid floor that "can be ultimate level", all the OC CEs, which were not all universally together in the same expansion as content types before ie. Stormblood lacked Variant/Criterion, Shadowbringers lacked DD and Variant/Criterion, Endwalker lacked Field Op and its raids, whereas now we're getting all that plus Chaotic and this extra DD raid.

The extra designers won't make them move away from left right stack spread, but rather to make more battles overall that do left right stack spread.

Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

The battle designers they have been hiring like crazy even during Endwalker have been for FFXIV because it shows an actual picture of the FFXIV ARR logo. I would show a picture but the position actually just filled for now.

It's likely why they're finding it easier to make more battle and raid content like Criterion, Chaotic, FT, the new deep dungeon and its raid floor that "can be ultimate level", all the OC CEs, which were not all universally together in the same expansion as content types before ie. Stormblood lacked Variant/Criterion, Shadowbringers lacked DD and Variant/Criterion, Endwalker lacked Field Op and its raids, whereas now we're getting all that plus Chaotic and this extra DD raid.

The extra designers won't make them move away from left right stack spread, but rather to make more battles overall that do left right stack spread.

This is just false. By this point in Stormblood, FFXIV had released the new deep dungeon already. The expansions released late June, and 4.35 happened on July 3rd.

Stormblood: 2 Savage tiers, 2 Ultimates, 1 Field Ops and 1 Deep Dungeon.
Dawntrail: 2 Savage tiers, 1 Ultimate, 1 Field Ops and 1 Chaotic.

Following the same timeline, in terms of days passed since the expansion released. If they end up releasing more content in (much) more time, they're not hiring like crazy.

Originally Posted by brinn12

This is just false. By this point in Stormblood, FFXIV had released the new deep dungeon already.

I'm not going to get into when with you because they have announced more overall content types at the last fanfest than we've got in any other expansion, and followed it up by releasing surprise ones like Chaotic and Quantum.