Thoughts about the LL?

[Zelda206]

With each patch that I skip and play a different game, the more I feel like I get to enjoy once I eventually come back to pay attention to it all.
The issue is that the patch and liveletter content come way too late while the iron is cold, and once they strike it, it feels like there needs to be more substance or that they aren't addressing some of the bigger issues that players have been asking for over a long period of time. This is also coupled with the fact that content that is PROMISED to come out in a x.xx patch is delayed repeatedly with a "not there yet" at each turn. This is why the promissory note that is "8.0" will fall flat if Square doesn't take the Enix out of its arse and commit resources, developers, and quality care back into their MMO. I know where the resources are going, if we're following Square's paper trail (scrambling to pick up new IPs to sell that fall flat like Life is Strange, trying to revive established games with modern twists and turns that do not appeal to its audience like the combat spin on the re-released and censored FF titles, and their targeted mobile game in China for that sweet cash grab), and it doesn't fill me with confidence that this game is going to deliver for much longer. It would take an entire slap across the face to shake them awake and focus on producing larger scopes of content at smaller intermissions between patches. A shakedown on the English branch would certainly help smooth some things over, like the fantastical blunder at the very start of Dawntrail (and this year) but I'm not holding my breath.

Those are my two cents on the liveletter(s) here and before for Dawntrail, as no other expansion has disappointed me nearly as much as this one, and this one is where the biggest elephants in the room have been noticed. I suppose what I'm saying is that it delivers, but it delivers too slowly, and no communications of the bigger concerns are really addressed; most of it seems glossed over or poorly presented to the point where it's ambiguous such as Job complexity, changes or additions. It doesn't help with the community still being divided on whether or not to be satisfied with the quality and consistency of when these liveletters drop and patches are released (ranging from toxic negativity to toxic positivity and both attacking everyone). The patch seems to offer better in terms of longevity, but to me it isn't enough. That's why I'm probably waiting to do any of this "new" content until more patches eventually drop, ranging from three-to-four months at a time (give or take a month or two).

[MayuAmakura]

- New PvP map looks fun.

Not to forget that new PvP changes with purify are absolute dog and I now lost all interest to get back to pvp scene. Thought we would get something better but purify with 2500mp cost? really? that makes other classes broken.

[Gortys]

But whenever you try to make the point that it's literally just the same old tired x.3 stuff rehashed for literally the 4th time now, the Great Community By The Way says you're "just a hater". You're just "an opp". You're just "not REALLY a fan". You should just "Take a break".

Paying someone to stay in a toxic relationship isn't a good idea to be fair? People should take breaks from any game that isn't making them happy and quit giving the parent company money.

[Oizen]

7.3 looks like a boring bad patch
7.35 could be good with that new DD and the new system. I'm glad they finally broke a formula for the first time in forever, keep doing that, even if this doesn't work out, keep doing it.

[MaikoRaines]

As much of a Shadowbringers simp as I am, I am begging you, SE... Get some new material.

They tried that. It was Dawn Trail. According to the masses, the MSQ wasn't great.

I do admit that they need to change up the formula a fair bit with their MSQ these days than the previous. I think we peaked hard in SB/EW with the writing. We certainly need to start bringing back some shock value and shake things up a fair bit.


As for my own gripes, not addressing the housing was a letdown for me. Pretty sure I heard them say they'd mention it last time.

New Deep Dungeon/Treasure Hunting looks great and the Meso Terminal stage looks extremely nice. Say what you will about some things, but when they deliver content, this expansion has been banging out some good changes despite most things.

[Aneshda]

Am I the only one who sees that Yoshi P. no longer behaves like a producer or like someone who loves this game?
But more like a Z-list celebrity pop star who just tours the world and lets himself be celebrated?
I think we've reached a point where SE needs to think about what's next for this game and whether it's still justified
to let someone like Yoshi P. work on this game.
As long as he's there, there will be no more big changes. The game is stagnating.
Always the same formula, no risks. There's nothing left to discover in the game, no more dangers, not even a good adventure.
Either because everything has become so easy, or because the LL's are so full of spoilers that even the dumbest among us understands what needs to be done in the game to get from A to B.
Today, Yoshi spent over an hour just spoiling Deep Dungeon, why?
Part of that wasn't LL anymore, but a streaming of Yoshi running through the Deep Dungeon and killing Monsters. I don't know but I am not a Fan of "Watch me Play Game XYZ"
And then there are his constant promises (lies). If you don't want to change anything about the game/system, all you have to do is say so, instead of talking about changes, hype Players with it and let them wait forever.
Does anyone remember that one interview when Yoshi was asked if we'd ever get Garlean armor and weapons, like Gaius's weapon? Yoshi replied that it could be now done since the Garlean story was over.
Years later… yes, you all guessed correctly, nothing has happened. No Gaius weapon, no Gaius, Nero, or Livia armor, no Zenos minion or Zenos, Gaius, Nero portrait.
Meanwhile, the Mobile Game got Gaius Armor, and we got a 42 Dollar Glamour in the Item Shop.
I love this Game here so much, and I rewatched Cutscenes so damn often, there was so many intriguing, funny and even sad Parts to see in all those Cutscenes.
With DawnTrail, all that changed. I haven't rewatched a single DawnTrail cutscene.
My love for this game is fading bit by bit.
No, I'm not burned out by this game; I've opened my eyes ...

[Kaurhz]

Went through the translated notes, and if those are indicative..., they're saying the right things, but it's just empty platitudes like always, and based on what was stated, e.g., "2.0 didn't have that much content" - it's the whole trap of quantity versus quality, and I am not saying it was perfect, but a lot of content back then mattered far more then, than what content now matters, and it's just the usual thing that most people have known since time immemorial, some patches may have more content than others, varying on playstyle. Design philosophy change is nice, but the content needs to last longer, really, and it's the same trap that non-battle content has... Here's your achievement for getting a relic on each class... Want more? Enjoy doing 500K on every class before you get the next actual tangible reward, e.g., mount. FATEs have the same issue... Enjoy your reward for doing all zones... Want more? 3840-ish FATEs, enjoy. (I am not one to shy away from a grind, but with the state it's in, the lack of milestone just doesn't feel satisfying, really. In combination with the fact it just feels... Pointless)

Game generally suffers because of it, and the tokenism just won't cut it, I don't think. It feels like they've done this cool thing with Deep Dungeons that they've tried to pivot into this, "we're thinking about u both casual and hardcore xoxox"

The content looks nice as well, don't get me wrong, just don't see anything changing, despite the discussion. (I also can't help but looking at this and thinking "I really didn't miss much" - and I don't mean that as a negative nancy)

[Exmo]

Too long and drawn out, he needs a handler.
He wastes like an hour talking about a pixel on a lalas forehead. Wastes like an hour the previous LL on how speech bubbles work. Wastes like an hour in this LL telling us how deep dungeons work-what is he doing. What is he doing.

And I don't appreciate how he lied for attention and views.
He knew a month ago that there weren't any updates for coming for housing. So what did he say, at the end of that last LL?
"We'll talk more about housing in the next LL"
I sat through 3 hours of him talking last month just to get told to tune in today.
So I tune in today for another 4 hours just to be told once again right at the very end, "Actually, there's no news, and its absolutely NOT because I went to a concert to re-live whats left of my youth" Are you insane????????? "a-and tomorrow, I get on a plane to go to taiwan and" Has he lost his mind?????? If he's too busy being a global aging rockstar then fine, do that, but he needs to say that upfront so people don't waste their time watching, waiting on something that he already knows we're not going to hear. That man is devious. Anything for attention!! Anyway the rest was fine though. but there's no chance I'm watching future LL's, I cannot stand a liar.

You're talking like you think Yoshi-P is the programmer working on housing updates. You can't be serious.

[brinn12]

You're talking like you think Yoshi-P is the programmer working on housing updates. You can't be serious.

Not really. Just sounds like you need to read the post again.

[Velthice]

Am I the only one who sees that Yoshi P. no longer behaves like a producer or like someone who loves this game?
But more like a Z-list celebrity pop star who just tours the world and lets himself be celebrated?
I think we've reached a point where SE needs to think about what's next for this game and whether it's still justified
to let someone like Yoshi P. work on this game.

SE seems to be banking on his status. That's probably why they said "yea we know the golden goose is in trouble, but we're gonna keep putting him on other projects." They likely want his name attached to more titles because they think it'll boost their sales