Demiatma drop rates are unacceptable

[Cilia]

I started in 2020, so I've never grinded out a relic before that wasn't the Manderville set. That said, these really don't seem that bad at all. After getting about half from OC I just FATE grinded with PF for specific colors and got them all by the end of day 3.

It seems people here really don't like the RNG aspect of it, which I guess I can understand, but it really doesn't seem that bad. Sometimes tedious, yes, but... it's a relic weapon. You don't need to get it by the first week.

The problem is that tying progress to RNG means that some people will get done earlier and some people get done never (regardless of how many times they roll the dice). Statistically it's unlikely, but you could get all of your Demiatma on day one or roll the dice ad nauseam and never finish anyway. I don't know what statistics they're using or their target projections for how long it'll take people to get finished, but assuming the reported approximate 20% / 5% drop rate from CEs / FATEs (respectively) you need 80 CEs and 320 FATEs, on average, to get all 16 Demiatma from either exclusively.

On average. Like I said some people could get super lucky and get them all on their first try, and others can get super unlucky and never finish no matter how long they beat their head against the wall. The people saying "Well I finished it already so the drop rates must be pretty generous / fair." are just the ones who lucked out and / or did not get burned by RNG.

[SpiritMuse]

The problem is that tying progress to RNG means that some people will get done earlier and some people get done never (regardless of how many times they roll the dice). Statistically it's unlikely, but you could get all of your Demiatma on day one or roll the dice ad nauseam and never finish anyway. I don't know what statistics they're using or their target projections for how long it'll take people to get finished, but assuming the reported approximate 20% / 5% drop rate from CEs / FATEs (respectively) you need 80 CEs and 320 FATEs, on average, to get all 16 Demiatma from either exclusively.

On average. Like I said some people could get super lucky and get them all on their first try, and others can get super unlucky and never finish no matter how long they beat their head against the wall. The people saying "Well I finished it already so the drop rates must be pretty generous / fair." are just the ones who lucked out and / or did not get burned by RNG.

Yeah, this is the problem with RNG grinding. It will take much longer for some than for others, and that doesn't seem fair. It why there should really be some type of weighted RNG or a pity system, so that we can eventually guarantee people will get their drops without having to spend excessive amounts of time compared to others.

[Arwing]

Yeah, this is the problem with RNG grinding. It will take much longer for some than for others, and that doesn't seem fair. It why there should really be some type of weighted RNG or a pity system, so that we can eventually guarantee people will get their drops without having to spend excessive amounts of time compared to others.

Absolutely agreed!