Please Stop Genderlocking Gear

[EdenElsewhere]

Can we make a bigger fuss about this please? Even if we don't get the gendered variants removed or unlocked, we should at least, receive proper pictures of the glam on both genders.

[Ajisaii]

You people are so weird.

[SophiaDL]

Props to ppl actually replying back to bigots like I'd rather farm 100 atmas than engage with that topic :v

I'm just baffled how fragile other players' egos must be to deny it's just optional clothing for men, and if they don't want to see they can just deal with it, along with it being an MMO, so players' personal expression is a main selling point in FFXIV.

I dont think you know what the word "bigot" means.

[EdenElsewhere]

You people are so weird.

How so?

I the picture they showed with the patch notes, they shown only the stcking and underwear option, available on females, so many may have presumed that was what it looks like on men.

Besides men getting rather... useless tights/leggings, there is kind of no reason for them to have given use leggings as it doubles up on the plain pants options since the Liz (Bartz glam) also has rather plain pants with similar gold embroidery.

Men simply do not have enough stocking options and this kind of feels like a kick in the face when the outfit didn't even need to have gender variants in the first place.

[Nero-Voidstails]

I'm happy to disagree, but I will still ask you to justify your opinion, just like I would expect anybody else to ask me to justify mine. You're free to walk away and don't have to respond to me, but for as long as you do, I'm likely to keep asking critical questions. For example;

If men are men, and women are women, then why is Faris' outfit and character okay? After all, she's female and not male, so should she not dress like that?
If men are men, and women are women, is it not okay to play as the opposite sex character in a video game? You're something of a digital drag queen. If it's okay because it's pretend or virtual, then why doesn't pretend or virtual clothing count?
Have you ever dressed your female character in revealing clothing? Do you think only men should get to do that?

I hope you can see how that's a double standard that objectifies women, and patronizes both genders.

have you played ff5 because Faris as yes being a female explain why she cloth as a male you know. Being in a band of pirates

[SophiaDL]

How so?

I the picture they showed with the patch notes, they shown only the stcking and underwear option, available on females, so many may have presumed that was what it looks like on men.

Besides men getting rather... useless tights/leggings, there is kind of no reason for them to have given use leggings as it doubles up on the plain pants options since the Liz (Bartz glam) also has rather plain pants with similar gold embroidery.

Men simply do not have enough stocking options and this kind of feels like a kick in the face when the outfit didn't even need to have gender variants in the first place.

the outfit didn't even need to have gender variants in the first place

Yes it did.

[Aniya_Estlihn]

Lets stop using genderlock improperly. These are gender variations, which is far less egregious than the random, arbitrary locks we used to deal with.

That aside... should they still keep making variations? That's... debatable. Many say we should get two variants, but we already know what direction they'd likely go.

I feel like if they were to pursue full parity we'd wind up never getting skirts and skimpy clothing for women, they'd simply default to pants, shorts, and slacks for everyone. I was genuinely convinced this was the case for the last two years or so as the utter lack of new skimpy/revealing options in mid to late Endwalker and up until this point in Dawntrail seemed to imply such was the direction they were taking things.

We can all agree that ideally, there'd be two variants; like they've been doing with Mogstation glamours and some crafted stuff, but... they're so inconsistent and its likelt that if they were forced to make a choice, they'd take the path of least resistance.

[Kunzite_Lockhart]

They’re not being consistent— if they let males have something like that before, then Tycoon tights should be unlocked for everyone too.

[Heavenchild]

Why do people like male characters in Genshin Impact so much?
Because they’re pretty.

Final Fantasy XIV doesn’t really have pretty male characters.
It tries to – kind of – but in the end, they’re mostly just bulky models with broad chests, and some of them have animal features.
Most of them feel stiff and a lot of glam scales weird on them, especially shoes.
So of course, more elegant/androgynous/feminin glamours and outfits don’t look that great on them.
Everything follows the same bulky macho aesthetic direction. Also male Viera do so.

To me, the real issue begins way before we even get to gender-locked glamours.
That's why, at the moment, I gave up after 10 years, to play with male characters.

So now I play an androgynous female that I can style in both gender directions. So I can have all the girly girl and good creative stuff that only female chars get. And I also can style an anime-like male/boyish look.

But it feels wrong to me that we have to take such strange detours for such a generic Asian media look. And of course it does not match emote and voices. xd

Here an exmaple of what I mean.
It does not have to be this new hair. I use a different one in general. This one just works in the more androgynous masculin direction.




But maybe you get what I mean. This typical slim anime-like look is sadly not possible to do with true male characters of this game.
I really wish it would be possible for midlanders.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

This. I'm sick of the needless differences on every other pair of leg gear in this game.
I'm also very disappointed with the forum moderators letting all the homophobia/aggression towards gender non-conforming people slide in this thread, not that that's anything new.

They do work on it. Just… extremely slow & inconsistent.

EDIT: it appears they also deleted the first... unsavory take in the thread’s 1st page as well. So they're clearly watching.