Please Stop Genderlocking Gear

[Laerune]

Why not just create a masculine and feminine option and let the player decide?

Everytime SE does something right (turning a lot of outfits unisex) we get stuff like this.

If SE wants to make a male and female version, then they need to hire a artist who is able to design good looking masculine outfits. Outfits for the men always look basic and often feel like copy of another outfit. Isn't Final Fantasy not the series that gave us feminine looking protagonists?

[CCheshire]

Props to ppl actually replying back to bigots like I'd rather farm 100 atmas than engage with that topic :v

I'm just baffled how fragile other players' egos must be to deny it's just optional clothing for men, and if they don't want to see they can just deal with it, along with it being an MMO, so players' personal expression is a main selling point in FFXIV.

[SophiaDL]

Props to ppl actually replying back to bigots like I'd rather farm 100 atmas than engage with that topic :v

I'm just baffled how fragile other players' egos must be to deny it's just optional clothing for men, and if they don't want to see they can just deal with it, along with it being an MMO, so players' personal expression is a main selling point in FFXIV.

I dont think you know what the word "bigot" means.

[Heavenchild]

In my personal opinion, SE just doesn't care much for male characters. You won’t convince me otherwise. Almost everything tends to be worse for male characters.

I’d really love to play a handsome male character, and I’ve mostly played male in this game. But since 2015, nothing significant has happened to improve the situation for them. They’re still at a clear disadvantage most of the time.

The real issue isn't just the repeated gender-locked gear like tights, skirts, and dresses. The deeper problem is that all male models follow the same design direction—there’s no truly slim and/or small androgynous type like you often see in anime or similar media or in FF14 for some NPC's. And that male glamours, in general, are usually really dull and lack creativity.

I’m against all forms of gender-locked content. But my main complaint is that male characters are overall at a big disadvantage. Players should have the freedom to express themselves however they want—this includes emotes, too. Gender-locked emotes and poses are, in my opinion, just as bad. Also not every female always wants to act like a 100% sterotype girly girl.

Right now, I’ve given up on playing true male characters in this game. I’ve tried since 2015, but nothing has ever really improved. At this point, I’ve lost all hope.

[Darko]

In my personal opinion, SE just doesn't care much for male characters. You won’t convince me otherwise. Almost everything tends to be worse for male characters.

I’d really love to play a handsome male character, and I’ve mostly played male in this game. But since 2015, nothing significant has happened to improve the situation for them. They’re still at a clear disadvantage most of the time.

The real issue isn't just the repeated gender-locked gear like tights, skirts, and dresses. The deeper problem is that all male models follow the same design direction—there’s no truly slim and/or small androgynous type like you often see in anime or similar media or in FF14 for some NPC's. And that male glamours, in general, are usually really dull and lack creativity.

I’m against all forms of gender-locked content. But my main complaint is that male characters are overall at a big disadvantage. Players should have the freedom to express themselves however they want—this includes emotes, too. Gender-locked emotes and poses are, in my opinion, just as bad. Also not every female always wants to act like a 100% sterotype girly girl.

Right now, I’ve given up on playing true male characters in this game. I’ve tried since 2015, but nothing has ever really improved. At this point, I’ve lost all hope.

Agreed 100%.

This post nails it.

They keep using this formula of female: tons of skin showing, shorts/skirts, no pants, random slits in clothing and male: boring, flat, pants, no skin showing designs and it's honestly getting immensely boring and disappointing. This at this point isn't even about wanting to see a cute bunny boy in short shorts, but it's harming people who play female characters a lot too. I can't put my female Viera in 60% of gear just because it's too girly and frilly for her aesthetic. Also what, is it corporate 80's again where women aren't allowed to wear pants again?



That long shirt just ruins the whole silhouette, and it's not like cropped shirts for male outfits *aren't* a thing. The male Viera race gear HAS a cropped top ffs.

And this is just... no. I really am not a big fan of when they make such big changes from male to female that it looks like two separate glam sets.

Female characters should also get pants, male characters should also get garter belts.

It's not just the clothing though, it's the body itself too. Female characters are depicted normally and get a breast size slider, but a slider for male anatomy, oh no can't have that. Male characters don't even have nipples and are as anatomically correct as a Ken doll. It's just cringe.

[Doomed_Raven]

Personally I'd rather not see a male character wearing something akin to 2B leggings because I think in a fashion sense it looks absolutely ridiculous, whilst others may want to see it because they think in a fashion sense it looks absolutely good.

The truth is, nobody's individual opinion on fashion should decide whether gear is unlocked or locked. A gear piece should be unlocked to both genders as standard, then people can decide whether they want to wear it or not. It'll give the game more freedom in customization. (Men need more shorts). And please CBSIII, stop adding weird metal shaped ARR-era motifs to what would otherwise be nice gear.

There is also some gear like certain hats which are gender locked which is a shame.

(I've seen some words like bigotry thrown around in this thread, if someone's fashion opinion is an unreasonable aversion then everyone in this thread is a bigot for having an opinion on fashion).

PS Cid's goggles in the store being gender locked is a war crime

[EdenElsewhere]

Can we make a bigger fuss about this please? Even if we don't get the gendered variants removed or unlocked, we should at least, receive proper pictures of the glam on both genders.

[Ajisaii]

You people are so weird.

[EdenElsewhere]

You people are so weird.

How so?

I the picture they showed with the patch notes, they shown only the stcking and underwear option, available on females, so many may have presumed that was what it looks like on men.

Besides men getting rather... useless tights/leggings, there is kind of no reason for them to have given use leggings as it doubles up on the plain pants options since the Liz (Bartz glam) also has rather plain pants with similar gold embroidery.

Men simply do not have enough stocking options and this kind of feels like a kick in the face when the outfit didn't even need to have gender variants in the first place.