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    Quote Originally Posted by Nero-Voidstails View Post
    it does yes but I still think it shouldn't be a thing still like yes having better cloth for woman would be good but also most people also sexual voluntary. that's why what they could do is like piece of gear with 2 or 3 option like variant option when you get it that's what I think should happen and same for emote like don't like that one use change pose to have a other option but for clothing. like masculine neutral and masculine feminine version. don't know if you get what I mean here
    It's hard to tell because of how you're constructing your sentences, but wouldn't that be just as good as providing glams to everyone?

    In the case of this content, there are three FF5 glams you can buy with the new currency. One is Bartz' gear for silver pieces, and the other two are Lenna's and Faris' gear for gold pieces. Bartz's gear is more unisex, Faris' is more masculine (because she disguises herself as a man while captaining her ship, spoilers for ff5) and Lenna is more feminine. This provides a variety of masculine, feminine, and neutral styles for everybody-- except they censored/changed Lenna's gear, but only for men. My argument is they should do exactly what they did-- have a feminine, masculine, and neutral option in content rewards-- but let everybody access it, and not censor certain parts of the outfits for certain people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evermomo View Post
    It's hard to tell because of how you're constructing your sentences, but wouldn't that be just as good as providing glams to everyone?

    In the case of this content, there are three FF5 glams you can buy with the new currency. One is Bartz' gear for silver pieces, and the other two are Lenna's and Faris' gear for gold pieces. Bartz's gear is more unisex, Faris' is more masculine (because she disguises herself as a man while captaining her ship, spoilers for ff5) and Lenna is more feminine. This provides a variety of masculine, feminine, and neutral styles for everybody-- except they censored/changed Lenna's gear, but only for men. My argument is they should do exactly what they did-- have a feminine, masculine, and neutral option in content rewards-- but let everybody access it, and not censor certain parts of the outfits for certain people.
    we are here to agree and disagree but what I meaning meant is like overall all glam because Lenna is still a female at the end and not a male that's what I believe in like wanna wear it well be a female or do like most will sadly do and use mods to change it on your screen not like 99% of the playerbase use those and gm does nothing against it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nero-Voidstails View Post
    we are here to agree and disagree but what I meaning meant is like overall all glam because Lenna is still a female at the end and not a male that's what I believe in like wanna wear it well be a female or do like most will sadly do and use mods to change it on your screen not like 99% of the playerbase use those and gm does nothing against it
    I'm happy to disagree, but I will still ask you to justify your opinion, just like I would expect anybody else to ask me to justify mine. You're free to walk away and don't have to respond to me, but for as long as you do, I'm likely to keep asking critical questions. For example;

    If men are men, and women are women, then why is Faris' outfit and character okay? After all, she's female and not male, so should she not dress like that?
    If men are men, and women are women, is it not okay to play as the opposite sex character in a video game? You're something of a digital drag queen. If it's okay because it's pretend or virtual, then why doesn't pretend or virtual clothing count?
    Have you ever dressed your female character in revealing clothing? Do you think only men should get to do that?

    I hope you can see how that's a double standard that objectifies women, and patronizes both genders.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evermomo View Post
    I'm happy to disagree, but I will still ask you to justify your opinion, just like I would expect anybody else to ask me to justify mine. You're free to walk away and don't have to respond to me, but for as long as you do, I'm likely to keep asking critical questions. For example;

    If men are men, and women are women, then why is Faris' outfit and character okay? After all, she's female and not male, so should she not dress like that?
    If men are men, and women are women, is it not okay to play as the opposite sex character in a video game? You're something of a digital drag queen. If it's okay because it's pretend or virtual, then why doesn't pretend or virtual clothing count?
    Have you ever dressed your female character in revealing clothing? Do you think only men should get to do that?

    I hope you can see how that's a double standard that objectifies women, and patronizes both genders.
    have you played ff5 because Faris as yes being a female explain why she cloth as a male you know. Being in a band of pirates
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nero-Voidstails View Post
    have you played ff5 because Faris as yes being a female explain why she cloth as a male you know. Being in a band of pirates
    Since your deleted post also removed my reply, I'll go ahead and re-write it;

    If you understand Faris' character, you'll know what I'm getting at. The pirate ship isn't the only reason she dresses that way. Long after her secret is out, she continues to prefer masculine clothing. Galuf suggests she should dress more like a girl and she outright refuses. In Bartz' on words, "No point trying to change her... Faris is who she is!"

    Thinking about it more, it's extra odd that while referencing a game that condones crossdressing with one of its main characters, we had to make sure men did not get the option to wear tights. I understand it slightly more when it happens to things like the crafted or artifact sets, which almost every player will use, so there's more pressure to be "inoffensive." But a level 1 glam piece behind hours of grind? Alas....
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    Completely agree that the locks only cause problems. All characters should be able to access any variant of gear, it will lead to more variety and allow for better individual expression.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nero-Voidstails View Post
    we are here to agree and disagree but what I meaning meant is like overall all glam because Lenna is still a female at the end and not a male
    But clothing rules are all arbitrary anyway. Not only that, they're constantly changing and contradictory. Heels started off as male fashion. Objectively anyone can wear anything that fits them, so I think that's a sensible way to approach virtual clothing. It also alleviates the problem of seeing nice outfit pieces and trying to track them down only to be disappointed because you can't wear them for no reason at all.
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