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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evermomo View Post
    They aren't. The king of tycoon (Alexander Highwind) wears a full blue robe, like this. So if there's pants, we can't see them.



    This would be a cool glam to get in later areas, though I don't know how they'd work around arms/sleeves. It might have to look slightly different. To me that would be the difference between changing an iconic design for technical reasons vs ideological reasons.
    honestly I do agree some of the glam in ff5 is amazing and I am also happy we got the ff5 Gilgamesh too and Enkidu like omg maybe we will get exdeath gear!!!! I want it so bad xx)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rithy255 View Post
    Well If you can't see the blatantly obvious homophobia in some of the posts I think you just might be part of the problem, though I'm sure you have a ideal where you don't want to see people different from the norm in general if I'd have to take a guess.

    What Ideal do people have exactly? men wearing 2b leggings are already in the game, it's not like SE are blatantly against men wearing more feminine outfits. As tired as you are, people can already dress up feminine as a man, so the idea of restricting some glams still makes no sense in the first place.

    Frankly I'd understand if people were annoyed at seeing skimpy outfits in general (I don't particularly like a lot of feminine versions for that reason) but being against people wearing outfits based on in game gender is discrimination no real other way of putting it.
    I am quite literally gay and I dont want male characters to be wearing tights.

    Thank you very much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SophiaDL View Post
    I am quite literally gay and I dont want male characters to be wearing tights.

    Thank you very much.
    So people should be able to be with who they want, but not dress how they want? You're entitled to your opinion, but it could at least make sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evermomo View Post
    So people should be able to be with who they want, but not dress how they want? You're entitled to your opinion, but it could at least make sense.
    This is a video game, have all the fun cross-dressing IRL all you want, doesn't bother me in the slightest. In the game there's male and female and that's pretty much it, it simply doesnt need to be in the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nero-Voidstails View Post
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    I mean I solely disagree on the basis that we should gender lock certain types of gear, if it's not appropriate for men to wear it's also not appropriate for women to wear I feel like to come to a different conclusion you must hold some internal bias, I don't even like looking at men in 2b leggings myself (mostly because I'm only attracted to women), but I can see how 2b leggings on women would also possibly be room for uncomfortably for certain people.

    The problem is there isn't really a "middle ground" you are either against men expressing themselves more feminine publicly or your fine with that, the idea that theirs middle ground isn't really founded obviously you can not care but I feel if you do not care how men dress up would mean you'd agree with me, at least in the idea that you wouldn't mind either way if feminine male options were added (it really shouldn't be a big deal imo).

    Obviously I am LGBT so I do have some bias and I can admit that, I feel like the person you replied to had a valid point and theirs obviously people who are being blatantly bigoted, I also don't want to act like some poor victim but I can understand being tired of seeing constant complaining about peoples gender or sexuality and people wishing bad intent on people does actually become tiring, I feel like if you really don't understand it (from what I'm assuming is a straight persons perspective) you tend to hear just both sides having a screaming contest.

    If you don't really want to engage with people that are LGBT (for example if someone is trans) theirs a difference on not engaging vs purposely baiting a reaction by misgendering them and just being outright rude, I can even understand slipping up but if you come at people hostile or baiting anger or upset it's not really a surprise when you get a response of them being upset.

    Lastly I don't really want to assume much about you either way I also have no context on what you said that would get people to call you what they did, from my view I really find it hard that a lot of people are truly "neutral" but that's also based on my bias and past experiences with people.

    Quote Originally Posted by SophiaDL View Post
    I am quite literally gay and I dont want male characters to be wearing tights.

    Thank you very much.
    Good for you I'm a lesbian and don't like looking at men wearing tights but if women should be able to wear them what's wrong with men wearing them, again it seems like rules for me not for thee, your sexuality doesn't change your opinion, making no sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SophiaDL View Post
    This is a video game, have all the fun cross-dressing IRL all you want, doesn't bother me in the slightest. In the game there's male and female and that's pretty much it.
    That's even more confusing. Why is it more upsetting to you in a video game?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evermomo View Post
    That's even more confusing. Why is it more upsetting to you in a video game?
    It simply doesnt need to be there, there's already more than enough options for female clothing on male characters, we certainly don't need tights now to follow that trend.

    Good for you I'm a lesbian and don't like looking at men wearing tights but if women should be able to wear them what's wrong with men wearing them, again it seems like rules for me not for thee, your sexuality doesn't change your opinion, making no sense.
    Opinions are opinions then ; )
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    Quote Originally Posted by SophiaDL View Post
    It simply doesnt need to be there, there's already more than enough options for female clothing on male characters, we certainly don't need tights now to follow that trend.



    Opinions are opinions then ; )
    It's genuinely funny you can't make a proper argument for why it's acceptable for women to wear something but it's not acceptable for men other then "I don't like how it looks" almost like people aren't here to look good for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rithy255 View Post
    It's genuinely funny you can't make a proper argument for why it's acceptable for women to wear something but it's not acceptable for men other then "I don't like how it looks" almost like people aren't here to look good for you.
    To each their own, seems like you're not so accepting of other opinions are you ? And great, my opinion isn't here to please you or anybody else in this thread. Goes likewise in that regard.

    Responding through edits because posts are kinda flying

    Quote Originally Posted by Evermomo View Post
    Why wouldn't that argument also apply to "Real life"?
    Because real life isnt a video game, that's it.
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    Last edited by SophiaDL; 05-30-2025 at 03:36 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SophiaDL View Post
    It simply doesnt need to be there, there's already more than enough options for female clothing on male characters, we certainly don't need tights now to follow that trend.
    Why wouldn't that argument also apply to "Real life"?
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