Cosmic Exploration is Bad

[Ekymus]

Would it be considered RMT to say I will pay you to understand that just because you don’t like it doesn’t make it bad content

Nor am I liable to give your opinion much weight on the subject considering you are struggling with such low level missions with no gear justification that at this point it’s not the content’s fault. We are at the point of a cure 1 spammer and a no mitigation/healing tank blaming the content for wiping in a dungeon



That had nothing to do with the point that person was making, they were acting like you could extrapolate your experiences in BTN to FSH

You need to pull your head out of the sand kiddo.

There are people on these forums besides me complaining about the gathering side of Cosmic Explorations. There are streamers complaining about it. There are Reddit posts complaining about it.And they're almost all saying the same thing, Cosmic Exploration is messed up for gatherers.

I get it, you have no personality other than white knighting for a game you play, but Cosmic Exploration is BAD content for gatherers. And I've heard and seen more than a few botanists complaining about the content as well.

It's you and like 4 other people who are defending the dumpster fire that is gathering in Cosmic Explorations. You are in the minority and you are wrong.

[Supersnow845]

You need to pull your head out of the sand kiddo.

There are people on these forums besides me complaining about the gathering side of Cosmic Explorations. There are streamers complaining about it. There are Reddit posts complaining about it.And they're almost all saying the same thing, Cosmic Exploration is messed up for gatherers.

I get it, you have no personality other than white knighting for a game you play, but Cosmic Exploration is BAD content for gatherers. And I've heard and seen more than a few botanists complaining about the content as well.

It's you and like 4 other people who are defending the dumpster fire that is gathering in Cosmic Explorations. You are in the minority and you are wrong.

I need to take a screenshot of this, me being called a white knight. This is just next level

And if you actually read you’d understand that few people actually disagree with proper actionable criticism on the front of gatherers. Things such as GP not restoring, or cordials being too weak with too long CD’s, same as criticism around the problem that aetherial reduction takes time in a limited time spam. It’s just that gets mixed up with people making criticisms that amount to “I don’t understand the content” or “my gear is too weak” and they think that since other people are making valid criticisms then theirs are as well. 99% of complaints that aren’t “GP doesn’t restore” amount to “I can’t read” like people who wonder why they aren’t getting any points on a mission that gives points for triggering gatherers boon or weak gear; like people who constantly complain that they can’t gold rank A3 experts with orange scrip gear macros

Your complaints basically centre on you being unable to do absolutely basic missions for reasons you will not explain to us despite other people doing harder missions with weaker gear than you and then going “see since x person made y (valid complaint) my complaint that makes zero sense and you won’t substantiate is also totally valid” and then go “see so everyone has to hate the content”

Like you just called me a white knight, the forums number 1 hater of modern job design just because I’m telling you that “I don’t understand the content” isn’t a valid criticism unless your complaint is that the content is opaque in explaining crafting and gathering breakpoints which IS a valid criticism

[Ekymus]

I need to take a screenshot of this, me being called a white knight. This is just next level

And if you actually read you’d understand that few people actually disagree with proper actionable criticism on the front of gatherers. Things such as GP not restoring, or cordials being too weak with too long CD’s, same as criticism around the problem that aetherial reduction takes time in a limited time spam. It’s just that gets mixed up with people making criticisms that amount to “I don’t understand the content” or “my gear is too weak” and they think that since other people are making valid criticisms then theirs are as well. 99% of complaints that aren’t “GP doesn’t restore” amount to “I can’t read” like people who wonder why they aren’t getting any points on a mission that gives points for triggering gatherers boon or weak gear; like people who constantly complain that they can’t gold rank A3 experts with orange scrip gear macros

Your complaints basically centre on you being unable to do absolutely basic missions for reasons you will not explain to us despite other people doing harder missions with weaker gear than you and then going “see since x person made y (valid complaint) my complaint that makes zero sense and you won’t substantiate is also totally valid” and then go “see so everyone has to hate the content”

Like you just called me a white knight, the forums number 1 hater of modern job design just because I’m telling you that “I don’t understand the content” isn’t a valid criticism unless your complaint is that the content is opaque in explaining crafting and gathering breakpoints which IS a valid criticism

What part of "this is supposed to be leveling content, not just for max level pentamelded gatherers" do you not understand? This is why you're clearly white knighting for Cosmic Explorations. You only allow and approve of certain, specific, criticisms. But if that criticism falls outside your "approved list" you charge to the rescue and try your best to squash it.

It's really kind of pathetic.

You don't get to determine what is, or isn't, "valid criticism", especially when the same or similar criticisms are being voiced not just by me, but by a LOT of others, including hardcore players.

Cosmic Explorations is for anyone level 10 or higher. This was meant to be leveling content. As leveling content, you shouldn't need penta-melded BiS gear if you're below level 100, and even then, you shouldn't need it unless you're almost done with your relic.

[Supersnow845]

What part of "this is supposed to be leveling content, not just for max level pentamelded gatherers" do you not understand? This is why you're clearly white knighting for Cosmic Explorations. You only allow and approve of certain, specific, criticisms. But if that criticism falls outside your "approved list" you charge to the rescue and try your best to squash it.

It's really kind of pathetic.

You don't get to determine what is, or isn't, "valid criticism", especially when the same or similar criticisms are being voiced not just by me, but by a LOT of others, including hardcore players.

Cosmic Explorations is for anyone level 10 or higher. This was meant to be leveling content. As leveling content, you shouldn't need penta-melded BiS gear if you're below level 100, and even then, you shouldn't need it unless you're almost done with your relic.

And you don’t need it unless you are doing something horribly wrong…….which you won’t explain to us especially if you are doing C and D ranks

It’s not hard to simulate low level crafters/gatherers by simply removing gear pieces to approximate old level ranges by their breakpoint; hell since they sync to 100 but you are wearing only half your gear simulating level 50 is actually harder than being true level 50. And these missions still aren’t hard (outside the A ranks but they ARE pentamelded content)

It’s obvious you are doing something wrong and people want (well wanted) to help you but you won’t explain your problem. What is your gear, what are your stats, what missions are you trying to do

Like I said if you believe that the levelling experience is opaque that’s a fully valid criticism, what isn’t valid is when people try to help you you just go “it’s bad it’s bad it’s bad” “why’s it bad” “it’s bad and I hate you”

Like everyone here besides you knows you are doing something wrong and people are trying to help you, wouldn’t actually getting help so you can do the content properly then form a reasonable complaint about how opaque the levelling experience is be a more productive use of your time

Or don’t, I’ll keep using cosmic as a materia farm and sell you the materia for a 300% markup, it makes no difference to me, anyone can check page 1 and see I opened this thread with a legit offer to try to help you that you instant rebuked then spent 13 pages shouting at everyone

[Ekymus]

And you don’t need it unless you are doing something horribly wrong…….which you won’t explain to us especially if you are doing C and D ranks

It’s not hard to simulate low level crafters/gatherers by simply removing gear pieces to approximate old level ranges by their breakpoint; hell since they sync to 100 but you are wearing only half your gear simulating level 50 is actually harder than being true level 50. And these missions still aren’t hard (outside the A ranks but they ARE pentamelded content)

It’s obvious you are doing something wrong and people want (well wanted) to help you but you won’t explain your problem. What is your gear, what are your stats, what missions are you trying to do

Like I said if you believe that the levelling experience is opaque that’s a fully valid criticism, what isn’t valid is when people try to help you you just go “it’s bad it’s bad it’s bad” “why’s it bad” “it’s bad and I hate you”

Like everyone here besides you knows you are doing something wrong and people are trying to help you, wouldn’t actually getting help so you can do the content properly then form a reasonable complaint about how opaque the levelling experience is be a more productive use of your time

Or don’t, I’ll keep using cosmic as a materia farm and sell you the materia for a 300% markup, it makes no difference to me, anyone can check page 1 and see I opened this thread with a legit offer to try to help you that you instant rebuked then spent 13 pages shouting at everyone

Again, the smugness and superiority complex you have. When people like Mr. Happy are saying the content is screwed up for gatherers, it means this isn't just a "me" problem. It means that the content and systems are screwed up.

And literally no one wanted to "help me". You don't offer help with backhanded, sarcastic, "I'm better than you", comments and get offended when you get called out on your b*llsh*t.

There was one person, it may have even been you, since I don't care enough to look at the names of who's replying anymore, that told me to use my level 100 power... I'm only level 97, but yeah, they were trying to help for sure. Give me a break.

And honestly, you can farm whatever you want, I don't buy anything off the market board, there's nothing worth buying there. Maybe it will mean I never have to have you in a group for a dungeon or raid which would be insuferable I'm sure as you'd try to tell everyone how to play their job while telling them how much they suck.

[Supersnow845]

Again, the smugness and superiority complex you have. When people like Mr. Happy are saying the content is screwed up for gatherers, it means this isn't just a "me" problem. It means that the content and systems are screwed up.

And literally no one wanted to "help me". You don't offer help with backhanded, sarcastic, "I'm better than you", comments and get offended when you get called out on your b*llsh*t.

There was one person, it may have even been you, since I don't care enough to look at the names of who's replying anymore, that told me to use my level 100 power... I'm only level 97, but yeah, they were trying to help for sure. Give me a break.

And honestly, you can farm whatever you want, I don't buy anything off the market board, there's nothing worth buying there. Maybe it will mean I never have to have you in a group for a dungeon or raid which would be insuferable I'm sure as you'd try to tell everyone how to play their job while telling them how much they suck.

What exactly are you struggling with?

Are you performing the rank D stellar missions. They your first port of call, rank D missions should be relatively easy for someone of any level

What gear did you buy? What level are you at based on your gear?

If you are synced then your gear may be playing a larger part than you expect but (in the nicest way possible) you may have bought the wrong gear

I can offer some advice but i need a bit more info

This was literally my first two replies to you. I offered to help you, I tried to understand what problems you had and offered you advice, I agreed the way gear progression works on crafters is rather opaque. Genuinely what did you want from me? I only started being rude and sassy because you rebuked my offers and help then insulted me and called me rude and unhelpful. You didn’t provide me any information I could use to help your problem, I still managed to correctly deduce your problem was the (very fair criticism) odd level sync on some of the missions and the game giving you (again fair criticism) the message go buy weaker gear at the shop you don’t actually want. Like what else did you want me to do

“Help” is trying to offer you solutions, not going “you are totally right worst content ever please delete yoshi p”

If you want a vent thread try reddit

[Ekymus]

This was literally my first two replies to you. I offered to help you, I tried to understand what problems you had and offered you advice, I agreed the way gear progression works on crafters is rather opaque. Genuinely what did you want from me? I only started being rude and sassy because you rebuked my offers and help then insulted me and called me rude and unhelpful. You didn’t provide me any information I could use to help your problem, I still managed to correctly deduce your problem was the (very fair criticism) odd level sync on some of the missions and the game giving you (again fair criticism) the message go buy weaker gear at the shop you don’t actually want. Like what else did you want me to do

“Help” is trying to offer you solutions, not going “you are totally right worst content ever please delete yoshi p”

If you want a vent thread try reddit

That was literally you telling me that I don't know how to play fisher or what my buttons do. And again, I DON'T PLAY CRAFTERS BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE HOW CRAFTING WORKS.

If you wanted to help, you should not have come in assuming that I don't know what I'm doing and that the problem must be me. Because based on the people complaining about how gathering works in Cosmic Exploration and the fact that you're one of the only people claiming it works perfectly, you are clearly wrong and don't understand why people don't like this content.

Even in this response, you refuse to accept that the problem isn't me, but the content. You refuse to admit that Cosmic Explorations is a bad experience for gatherers, especially fishers, and instead insist that I just don't know how to play the class.

You are white knighting for some of the worst conceived content in the game as you continue to ignore the fact that Cosmic Explorations isn't a good experience for the casual gatherer.