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  1. #101
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    And fishing isn’t like mining or botanist so what’s your point
    Perhaps you need to learn to read and comprehend better.

    The point is, gathering sucks to do in Cosmic Exploration, fishing is particularly bad, miner and botanist are also unpleasant and not any fun to play in that content.
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  2. #102
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ekymus View Post
    You are wrong. Cosmic Exploration is bad content for gatherers. If you don't think so, that's on you for not understanding how bad it is. But you need to stop gaslighting and pretending like this is the best content ever created.
    Would it be considered RMT to say I will pay you to understand that just because you don’t like it doesn’t make it bad content

    Nor am I liable to give your opinion much weight on the subject considering you are struggling with such low level missions with no gear justification that at this point it’s not the content’s fault. We are at the point of a cure 1 spammer and a no mitigation/healing tank blaming the content for wiping in a dungeon

    Quote Originally Posted by Ekymus View Post
    Perhaps you need to learn to read and comprehend better.

    The point is, gathering sucks to do in Cosmic Exploration, fishing is particularly bad, miner and botanist are also unpleasant and not any fun to play in that content.
    That had nothing to do with the point that person was making, they were acting like you could extrapolate your experiences in BTN to FSH
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    Last edited by Supersnow845; 04-30-2025 at 09:57 PM.

  3. #103
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    Because there is 8 crafters and only 3 gatherers they compensate by making the gatherers take 3 times as long. It's obnoxiously long.
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  4. #104
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doki View Post
    Because there is 8 crafters and only 3 gatherers they compensate by making the gatherers take 3 times as long. It's obnoxiously long.
    Which is pretty much entirely down to how GP works, an actual valid issue.
    It doesn't take that long because it's so difficult, it's because you spend at least half the time standing around doing nothing.
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    Last edited by Absurdity; 04-30-2025 at 10:18 PM.

  5. #105
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    Yeah GP not restoring combined with it requiring longer by default is a legit problem
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

  6. #106
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    Quote Originally Posted by Absurdity View Post
    Which is pretty much entirely down to how GP works, an actual valid issue.
    It doesn't take that long because it's so difficult, it's because you spend at least half the time standing around doing nothing.
    Just hope we could buy some “Cosmic Cordial” that don’t share CD with normal Cordial and Hi-Cordial.
    Now I do 1-2 gathering quest switch to crafter run a few quest while GP recover and Cordial CD finish and switch back to DoL. kind of fiddly, better than just sitting idle
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  7. #107
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    This thread title and its OP are bad faith actors throwing a tantrum that the content is bad because it didn't meet their expectation of a leveling experience. They embody every aspect of the toxic casual within FFXIV: having rebuffed initial attempts to provide assistance, perpetuated an agenda that content does not cater to their below-average playtime and ability, and ignored all valid arguments by claiming personal knowledge far beyond their actual experience with the game, all while being actively hostile.

    There are other threads with valid criticisms and discussions about Cosmic Exploration. Stop feeding this troll.
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  8. #108
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    I have to say OP, you're the most hostile and aggressive FSH main I've met so far here :v
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Yeah GP not restoring combined with it requiring longer by default is a legit problem
    I can get behind them restoring GP (or as another commenter suggested, having random lops in the area give you a +GP restore buff like the elementals in Eureka.)
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  10. #110
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Would it be considered RMT to say I will pay you to understand that just because you don’t like it doesn’t make it bad content

    Nor am I liable to give your opinion much weight on the subject considering you are struggling with such low level missions with no gear justification that at this point it’s not the content’s fault. We are at the point of a cure 1 spammer and a no mitigation/healing tank blaming the content for wiping in a dungeon



    That had nothing to do with the point that person was making, they were acting like you could extrapolate your experiences in BTN to FSH
    You need to pull your head out of the sand kiddo.

    There are people on these forums besides me complaining about the gathering side of Cosmic Explorations. There are streamers complaining about it. There are Reddit posts complaining about it.And they're almost all saying the same thing, Cosmic Exploration is messed up for gatherers.

    I get it, you have no personality other than white knighting for a game you play, but Cosmic Exploration is BAD content for gatherers. And I've heard and seen more than a few botanists complaining about the content as well.

    It's you and like 4 other people who are defending the dumpster fire that is gathering in Cosmic Explorations. You are in the minority and you are wrong.
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