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  1. #51
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    Endris Caemwynn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neoyoshi View Post
    As much as I kind of knew all of this was going to happen, the silver lining is that because we are getting multiple planets in this content, the feedback (if they listen) might give them what they need to improve on this and build out the progression differently so high-pop servers can't just burn through these progression phases so quickly.
    Their response to the negative reception to IS was "We aren't getting the praise we deserve, so we're not going to bother trying." I'll be very surprised if they actually iterate on CE and don't just write it off and go through the motions.
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  2. #52
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    A'lain Tia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Havenchild View Post
    Forums: "We want to have long form content to keep us entertained for longer periods of time"

    SE: Cosmic Exploration

    Forums: " Why are you punishing people who can't play all day?"

    - and the wheel continues to turn.

    Anyone who defends the flipfloping of these forums is a joke. SE can only farm L's at this point.
    Are you purposefully being obtuse or just naturally that way.

    1) It's almost as if forums are made up of lots of people with different opinions and not a hivemind.

    2) Longer form content that is well implemented would not punish people who can't play all day by design. It would have a long content life span and allow those players to join in. So whatever point you're trying to make here is moot.
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    Last edited by Phlurg; 04-24-2025 at 05:25 AM.

  3. #53
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    Asane Paran
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    I’m confused as to why people are still seeing this as a problem (and normally I’m a massive complainer)

    The first two stages were minor changes at best just to get the teleporters running because of the lack of mounts and now it seems like a long grind to stage 4 and potentially beyond

    Nobody is missing contributing to progression, you can go contribute to progression right now. The first phases specifically changed almost nothing specifically as they were just setting up groundwork
    From what I see, people want it be both Doma (for solo stage progress) and Ishgard (for community contribution) at the same time. Not sure how it would work, because it would mean (at current stage) teleports for some but not others?
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  4. #54
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    Flan Vongola
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    Raiden
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daralii View Post
    Their response to the negative reception to IS was "We aren't getting the praise we deserve, so we're not going to bother trying." I'll be very surprised if they actually iterate on CE and don't just write it off and go through the motions.
    That's what I'm afraid of yeah. Just because there are vocal players, doesnt mean they should drop it forever.
    Does it have flaws? Yeah. Still doesn't mean there aren't people who appreciate this style of content.
    Honestly, I dont need a new map to explore for this type of content. They could bring a new system and integrate it all over Eorzea. Continue further and create a community event, where everyone can participate and enjoy. No need for speedruns.
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  5. #55
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    Fortuna Fiora
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    Quote Originally Posted by Regis_Paran View Post
    From what I see, people want it be both Doma (for solo stage progress) and Ishgard (for community contribution) at the same time. Not sure how it would work, because it would mean (at current stage) teleports for some but not others?
    When the community contribution exp is full the stuff upgrades for everyone who is there at the time.
    For players who come late be it work, health or new players to the game that finally reach it. They get a quest with an objective to do and finishing it gives them the upgrade on their end.
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  6. #56
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    Urist Mcurist
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    Marauder Lv 55


    Guys just use the "Set alarm." function!
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    A fool only stays a fool if they refuse to listen and learn. If you listen and learn then foolishness can turn into wisdom.

  7. #57
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Quote Originally Posted by TKMXIV View Post
    When the community contribution exp is full the stuff upgrades for everyone who is there at the time.
    For players who come late be it work, health or new players to the game that finally reach it. They get a quest with an objective to do and finishing it gives them the upgrade on their end.
    Yall really want to individually do the quest where you vacuum moon dust for 40 minutes

    I guess whatever floats your boat. After the first upgrade I was glad I logged off and by the time I came back the second one was done
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

  8. #58
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Yall really want to individually do the quest where you vacuum moon dust for 40 minutes

    I guess whatever floats your boat. After the first upgrade I was glad I logged off and by the time I came back the second one was done
    Sure, why not? If I can push a button to cast a spell or swing a weapon until something dies, I can click to vacuum dust.
    At least I would be doing something to trigger a change in the overworld instead of it already being finished before I even did anything.
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  9. #59
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    Hisato Yoshida
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    Samurai Lv 100
    As a Diadem enjoyer, I find the Cosmic Exploration incredibly tedious (for the most part).

    I'm not a fan of the levequest style content. Having to travel to each location to press two buttons to start a 3min timer then two more buttons to collect my reward after running across the small area to three different node spawn locations is frustrating.

    If I want to do another levequest I have to click two buttons to figure out if I'm in the right spot or six more (maximum) because they change up order of the list.

    I understand they included 'Stellar Sprint' but I would have really liked access to my mounts / flying to make it easier to get from one place to another instead of being land-locked to the 'teleports'.

    It really just compounds the tedium of the whole experience.

    I will give credit where it's due, I don't so much mind the fates. They're a nice change up to the gathering formula.

    Ultimately though, I much prefer the more relaxed nature of 'pick up and go' that the Diadem provides. Just pick a class, pick the direction, go collect and turn in your items whenever you're ready.

    I understand it's not for everyone but it's definitely a much more relaxed style of content that I really appreciate.
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  10. #60
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Quote Originally Posted by TKMXIV View Post
    Sure, why not? If I can push a button to cast a spell or swing a weapon until something dies, I can click to vacuum dust.
    At least I would be doing something to trigger a change in the overworld instead of it already being finished before I even did anything.
    You are doing something, we are in stage 3 of like 15 and each stage is barely moving at like 1 stage per week

    Remember what was in the live letter, we are nowhere near finished
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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