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  1. #61
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    Regis_Paran's Avatar
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    Asane Paran
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    Shiva
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    You are doing something, we are in stage 3 of like 15 and each stage is barely moving at like 1 stage per week

    Remember what was in the live letter, we are nowhere near finished

    People are acting like zip lines were the peak of the content and nothing ever will happen after that.
    Do they even know that we're only building a base of operations atm?... And cosidering what were told in the intro quest, I won't be surprised if we end up making a new starship.
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  2. #62
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    Raim Surion
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    Balmung
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    Marauder Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Regis_Paran View Post
    People are acting like zip lines were the peak of the content and nothing ever will happen after that.
    Do they even know that we're only building a base of operations atm?... And cosidering what were told in the intro quest, I won't be surprised if we end up making a new starship.
    You're missing the point. Each state will cycle in and be completed in hours unless they plan to make later stages take way, way longer.
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  3. #63
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    Supersnow845's Avatar
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    Andreas Cestelle
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    Pictomancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Raim View Post
    You're missing the point. Each state will cycle in and be completed in hours unless they plan to make later stages take way, way longer.
    The current cycle is one day in and no server is even half way there
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

  4. #64
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    Kandraxx's Avatar
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    Luna Arcon
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    Twintania
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    White Mage Lv 100
    You know a game hit rock bottom when one-time event contribution is peak content.
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  5. #65
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    xbahax92's Avatar
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    Keiji Zaika
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 100
    The way I see it, the first two stages were meant to go by quickly so that we could unlock hoverboard travel. I’m also confident that we’ll unlock mounts after reaching a certain stage, and eventually even gain the ability to fly around the map.

    I’m not sure what’s so sad about missing the first two phases, but I’m pretty sure we’ll get Fetes like those in the Ishgard Restoration, where each activity is repeated. The forums really quick to complain and it gets annoying.

    Also, this is Odin's progression. So we haven't even see all phases.



    Here is the link for all servers: Cosmic Exploration
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  6. #66
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    Havenchild's Avatar
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    Avalen Koma
    World
    Gilgamesh
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Pip_Chick View Post
    Doman enclave restoration. You start at 0, and through a weekly task get to see all the stages and see the enclave get slowly restored.
    Just copy that at a bigger scale.
    Ooh so close but that's not shared progression content serverwide.
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  7. #67
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    Supersnow845's Avatar
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Jenova
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    Pictomancer Lv 100
    One thing the game should do though is be a lot more transparent about the progression system

    After phase 3 finished the bar just sat there empty for a while even though people were doing CE’s, red alerts, relics and ~~not~~ kupo of fortunes. That’s the original reason why people thought phase 3 was it, because nothing moved the bar.

    Turns out every few hours (I’m not exactly sure how many) the game tallies up what’s been done recently and if it’s sufficient (which in a server the size of mine like jenova always is) then it fills one progress bar out of (I think) 10 then the cycle silently repeats

    It seems like having the bar just be able to progress as things are done rather than arbitrarily go up in opaque blocks and pulls be better to show everyone that progression is still actively happening and you are contributing to it
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

  8. #68
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    Rena Clock
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    Belias
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Why would people think that tho?
    They showed the phase with much more stuff in PLL and said even that is not the final phase.
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  9. #69
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    A'zalie Nitsah
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    Louisoix
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Nice job forcing crafting in the gatherer jobs... I don't like crafting, planned to only do the gathering quest, but I guess I won't even do those in the end... I'm really not happy with that choice.
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    Last edited by CNitsah; 04-24-2025 at 01:52 AM.

  10. #70
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    TaleraRistain's Avatar
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    Thalia Beckford
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    Jenova
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    I’m confused as to why people are still seeing this as a problem (and normally I’m a massive complainer)

    The first two stages were minor changes at best just to get the teleporters running because of the lack of mounts and now it seems like a long grind to stage 4 and potentially beyond

    Nobody is missing contributing to progression, you can go contribute to progression right now. The first phases specifically changed almost nothing specifically as they were just setting up groundwork
    Because people want to experience all of this get built up and not just get driven over to something already completed? They want to participate in these fates and not just hear about them? This was one of the biggest complaints about Ishgard Restoration and we know they were asked about it because they mentioned it in the Live Letter.
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