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    Regis_Paran's Avatar
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    Asane Paran
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    Shiva
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by CNitsah View Post
    But there were solutions : locking the base evolution behind quests. Doma restoration did it. The only problem I see with that method is the whole howerboard thing. But make that the first step (it's currently the second) in an solo instancied tutorial and it's fixed.

    If every progress was locked behind personal quest, it would be no different than Island Sanctuary or (as you said) Doma. Only why then even bother with making a "community" thing, when map will look different for everyone anyway?
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    Raim's Avatar
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    Raim Surion
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Havenchild View Post
    Forums: "We want to have long form content to keep us entertained for longer periods of time"

    SE: Cosmic Exploration

    Forums: " Why are you punishing people who can't play all day?"

    - and the wheel continues to turn.

    Anyone who defends the flipfloping of these forums is a joke. SE can only farm L's at this point.
    The problem is people who grind are taking away experiences from people who aren't grinding since its shared. The way its made its 'basically' FOMO.
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    Kaurhz's Avatar
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    Asuka Kirai
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    Sagittarius
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Havenchild View Post
    Forums: "We want to have long form content to keep us entertained for longer periods of time"

    SE: Cosmic Exploration

    Forums: " Why are you punishing people who can't play all day?"

    - and the wheel continues to turn.

    Anyone who defends the flipfloping of these forums is a joke. SE can only farm L's at this point.
    This is the result of what happens when the point of this thread goes completely over your head, or you are simply not comprehending at all, or you are deliberately trying to be disingenuous...

    Long-form content is good, but the progression aspect is still FOMO ultimately, and you can have both simultaneously, and neither contradict......
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    PercibelTheren's Avatar
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    Percibel Theren
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    Zodiark
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Havenchild View Post
    Forums: "We want to have long form content to keep us entertained for longer periods of time"

    SE: Cosmic Exploration

    Forums: " Why are you punishing people who can't play all day?"

    - and the wheel continues to turn.

    Anyone who defends the flipfloping of these forums is a joke. SE can only farm L's at this point.
    I wonder if you're just misinterpreting things on purpose to sound antagonistic, since that seems to be what you always do. "punishing people who can't play all day" here doesn't mean "people who can't afford to spend all day grinding". It means "punishing people who have to go to work because the event is done mid-morning."
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    A'lain Tia
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    Omega
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Havenchild View Post
    Forums: "We want to have long form content to keep us entertained for longer periods of time"

    SE: Cosmic Exploration

    Forums: " Why are you punishing people who can't play all day?"

    - and the wheel continues to turn.

    Anyone who defends the flipfloping of these forums is a joke. SE can only farm L's at this point.
    Are you purposefully being obtuse or just naturally that way.

    1) It's almost as if forums are made up of lots of people with different opinions and not a hivemind.

    2) Longer form content that is well implemented would not punish people who can't play all day by design. It would have a long content life span and allow those players to join in. So whatever point you're trying to make here is moot.
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    Last edited by Phlurg; 04-24-2025 at 05:25 AM.

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    Valence's Avatar
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    Sunie Dakwhil
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    At least if it was shared and had actual interactions between players, but here the only interaction we get is participating into filling the same progression bars, by collecting imaginary virtual resources that aren't even pooled together either but handled as individual tokens used for scoring..
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    Zeeds Ventus
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    Jenova
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    Rogue Lv 100
    Thanks for the FOMoO, square.
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    Gurgeh's Avatar
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    Enceladus Orbilander
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    Spriggan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phlurg View Post
    ...

    The devs are obviously able to cap/timegate content, they do it with savage which is played by a small section of the player base so that it is not over and done with too quickly. So why not cap the content that is literally accessible to the entire game populace
    Never mind time gating 'completing' savage. They don't even want to ever start it. (unless your no lifing your crafting and gil farming)

    I really enjoyed restoring Doma.
    What is the point in 'community' content, that the community can't join in on.
    (Doesn't affect me. Crafting and gathering is soured for me now with the whole savage race so I'm just going to take a look in on the moon - whenever, but I can see its a missed opportunity for those that would appreciate it.)
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    Last edited by Gurgeh; 04-23-2025 at 06:08 AM.

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    Ukina Yascaret
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    Cerberus
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Y "I want this to have a strong feeling of "doing it together", to give that MMO feeling"
    Y "Island Sanctuary was solo content, but this is meant to be done together, but you will still be able to enjoy is solo as well"
    Y "During ishard restoration, it was more of a "real time thing" where only players wo were there for each step could visually see the development and the differences, but this time we also want people to be able to "look back" even if they only join the content at a later stage"
    This is what Yoshi-P told about Cosmic exploration in PLL85 7.2 part 1...
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    Sesile Kokoro
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    Hyperion
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    Lancer Lv 100
    Ok I am a bit bummed about this. I didn’t event know this content was dropping today. Just saw the social media posts and was like oh cool I’ll check this out in a few days when I have time to play new content. But now I find out it’s a server progress system like firmament and not a solo content like island sanctuary. And apparently I’ve missed the boat by just being at work and not having time to game until the weekend?

    How is that fair!?

    Surely they can create instanced zone for each stage of the development so people can experience the content from the start if they join late.
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