Quote Originally Posted by OMGJesuis66 View Post
Honestly, a lot of people here are saying, "If you change Frontline rewards, no one will play it." And if the reason why people play a game mode is because you are being overgiven a reward? Then, the mode itself already failed in its purpose of being an engaging experience? It creates a bad mode.

And Frontline is precisely that, a low effort, big reward mode that requires none or a bare minimum of skill expression within a competitive system with other players.

Sadly, you cannot remove the rewards. As said, people would not play it, and they indeed would not play it. FFXIV players have little-to-no care about PvP, they want the gratification, and the system itself rewards that kind of behaviour and mentality. As it stands, the game whole PvP system needs a massive overhaul to pursue improvement and try to be more engaging for players. It is genuinely sad.

At the very least they could add Rival Wings to a PvP Roulette, so we could have a proper variety when playing that perhaps leads to a lesser frustration. Granted, rewards are not just given based on the PvP system itself but the bonus reward from the Roulette system. PvP by itself gives basically 0 rewards, no matter if you win or lose. Just add more modes to it, I think it will improve the situation a tad.
I think it'd be a mistake to add RW into a general PvP roulette. From a personal point of view, it would mean I wouldn't play 2-3 days out of every 5, and I suspect that would not be uncommon.

What I'm really frustrated about right now is that the recent FL changes have been good. I agree with you if people only engage in a mode then it is a poorly-designed mode, but I feel FL is rising above that. The issue is 72-person instances are difficult to populate by nature, particularly while we have this silliness of having division by DC.

I'm optimistic about the mode because, in most matches at any time of day, I see a lot of players I recognize. There is a dedicated FL community. IMO it wouldn't take much on NA for players who want to play the mode to support tolerable queue times.