Genuine Question for Frequent Negative Posters

[Shurrikhan]

(formatting here is i think kinda broken on fire fox so i just post and hope for the best )

It has nothing to do with your browser. You actually break that section of the webpage page for everyone else, too, regardless of what browser they use, so you may want to edit. The problem you're running into is in the lists within lists.

I'd recommend clearing the LIST mark-ups from your post and just using INDENT, and then, once everything is as you like it, select each section varying in indentation and use the LIST button to save yourself a lot of re-typing or copy/paste work in the markup.

Eg.

If you have...

<Section I>

<IA>
<IB>
<IC>

<IC1>
<IC2>
<1C3>

<Section II>

Just go ahead and grab each block and hit the LIST button from the Advanced Menu to arrive at...

• <Section I>

• <IA>
  
• <IB>
  
• <IC>

• <IC1>
• <IC2>
• <1C3>

• <Section II>

Which would look like...

[ LIST ][*]<Section I>[/LIST ]
[INDENT ][ INDENT ]
[ LIST ][*]<IA>
[*]<IB>
[*]<IC>[/LIST ][INDENT ][INDENT ]
[LIST ]<IC1>
[*]<IC2>
[*]<1C3>[/LIST ]

[ /INDENT ][ /INDENT ][ /INDENT ][ /INDENT ]

[LIST ]<Section II>[/LIST ]

[Exmo]

Note that half the topics in this forum are made by the same person with 2-3 alts that they change every month or so. There are genuinely a lot of negative posters because people mostly come to forums when they want to complain, but the alts are a significant contributor to this.

They want it to be better though and the point is to communicate it.

I don't think they want it to be better tbh. I think they just like spreading negativity and relish the attention it brings.
I don't know why anyone pays them any heed though. They have no creativity, they just rehash the same 5 conversations again and again.

[Basteala]

People are critical because despite all the frustration and disappointment, the people still care.

What you really want to worry about is if they stop complaining right now.

[Hallarem]

Soooooo, let's say I disliked living in my country or some systems in my country, or my school, or my workplace. The real answer is just to walk away and not display my grievances, in a hope that things change to a more reasonable path? This is the fight phase, people being disgruntled and not leaving. I give the game a lot of flack, but I want it to be better.

Its clear they don't listen to nice feedback, so now people are giving them mean / sometimes toxic feedback, if that doesn't bite, people will start leaving because thats when "vote with your wallet" comes in.

Yoshi P saying "Go play other games while you wait" is EXTREMELY INSULTING, because he keeps charging us a sub. In an MMO where you build communities around hanging IN THE GAME. He is extremely tone deaf and I think all the goodwill for him is starting to run dry. The whimsy and chillaxed game dev facade is starting to fall because he is not talking about any of the backlash honestly, nor is he really giving us anything to "look forward to" in his own words. The patch cycles are extremely stretched, unreasonably so.

I'm gonna say it, they need to hire a new director, someone who has "innovation" in their CV, instead of "follow the formula"

Playing FFXIV is like watching your favorite sports team settle for mediocre and not chasing the championship with everything they got.

[MicahZerrshia]

I don't think they want it to be better tbh. I think they just like spreading negativity and relish the attention it brings.
I don't know why anyone pays them any heed though. They have no creativity, they just rehash the same 5 conversations again and again.

Says the person who necro'd a thread so they could spread negativity by having yet another thread to complain about negativity on and likely relishing all the attention it gives while saying things with no creativity cause you are also just repeating the same 5 things.
But I will take your advice and just not pay you any heed, since we have a handy dandy block feature here.

[Kaurhz]

I don't know why anyone pays them any heed though. They have no creativity, they just rehash the same 5 [] again and again.

Why does this sound familiar? Can someone clue me in?

[Red-thunder]

I don't think they want it to be better tbh. I think they just like spreading negativity and relish the attention it brings.
I don't know why anyone pays them any heed though. They have no creativity, they just rehash the same 5 conversations again and again.

Maybe because even if I exaggerate I actually talk about the game.

Phys ranged were arguably the first canary in the coal mine even before the healers. They got massively gutted from HW to SB. Many would say for a good reason, but they have made ZERO attempt at incorporating some of the fun elements into the SB iteration. We could have Gauss Barrel turning the gun into a shotgun that has to be charged up at close range (a melee range cast) to give it some depth, while limiting its uses per minute so that you still have a lot of movement where necessary.

Dark knight arguably too, but I haven't really played the job much back then. But they were 100% gutted by ShB when Dark Arts got neutered.

SB to ShB just gutted so many jobs. You could say that over half of the jobs got neutered in some way or another: all three healers, Dark Knight, Warrior, Monk, Machinist... Ninja got dealt a heavy blow in 5.1 or something with the mudra rework........

.....

100%.

A huge part of why even dungeons felt interesting in ARR and HW was because back then jobs had a very high skill ceiling. There was always something to do and something to think about even in dungeons.

With that high skill ceiling and depth, jobs become content in and of themselves. Learning to master a single job became fun. And it helps make content like FATEs and alliance raids interesting because even when you've seen the same mechanics a hundred times you may not have really thought through how to optimize on each job mapped to the fight.

At least for decent players this does not exist anymore. Every job just feels like carbon copies of each other, especially the healers and tanks. I swapped to Red Mage and Gunbreaker in EW and just casually got 99s and 95s in Savage and Ultimate after mainly playing healers even though I've literally never played them before. This shouldn't be possible. It's because jobs are so braindead and so similar to each other now then once you have mastered the core ideas of keeping uptime there is nothing else to master on each job, except BLM before all the gutting. Now I actually struggled on that job in EW and it took effort to get good and learn nonstandard. But alas that is the only job where it takes any effort to become good at on top of the skill you've acquired from raiding in general.

This 100% wasn't possible in Heavensward and to a lesser extent Stormblood. I toyed with Summoner in HW and just reading Hai Hai's guide and learning the triple weave opener took weeks to get to an acceptable level of performance. Now you want me to swap to MCH and pick up the job in a day or so before we do a week 1 kill of Savage and meet the DPS check? Fat chance back then! You'd be completely griefing your static. In EW and DT? I literally don't even need to practice on a dummy before going in.

Back in Stormblood there was a Savage raid called O8S.

One of the mechanics was called Forsaken.

Forsaken 1 was probably the most interesting heal check they've ever put into this game and it was more than just walking to the correct spot.

Kefka starts by casting Heartless Archangel. This applies a debuff called Incurable that has something like...

- A 5 second incurable debuff if you are at max HP when Heartless Archangel lands.
- A 12 second incurable debuff if you are not at max HP when Heartless Archangel lands.

(Numbers could be wrong it's been like 7 years since I did that fight)

Incurable means any form of healing and shielding will not apply while you have the debuff.

Now Heartless Archangel also drops everyone down to 1 HP. So you're at 1 HP *and* you also cannot receive any heal? And right after HA the DPS also needs to soak damage immediately?

The solution was elegant: you have to pre-shield them enough so that they can survive some hits during Incurable. And 3 seconds after Incurable drops off, they also need to soak damage from the Kefka heads. That requires them to be healed right after Incurable. So timing is important here, where the healers have to let the heal land right as Incurable falls off, and heal enough in a short time so that the DPS can do their job. The DPS also has to pay attention to their health and pop the Kefka heads only when they are ready to soak a hit. The tankbusters will then happen, so after taking care of the DPS, the healers need to take care of healing the tank. Back then we didn't have OP heals like Macrocosmos, so it actually required multiple abilities and GCD healing. Knowing to choose the right heal - AoE or single target actually mattered for this mechanic.

And Heartless Archangel is then casted again in like 40 seconds or something, after a gauntlet of damage, tankbusters, and heavy-hitting raidwides. In fact I think it happened like 7 seconds after an Ultima, so you have to get everyone to max HP right after a very heavy-hitting raidwide.

Back then healers actually had to use Helios and Medica. The world top logs had 20+ casts of Aspected Benefic, Aspected Helios, and Helios.

There are several more examples like the CC in A6S (which had an encore in E8S), the kiting in T7S, etc....

You will never understand because you are not tethered to the actual substance of the game. You are here only because of your feelings. Your personal identity is under threat because people are unhappy about the game. You never talk about the game. You only come here to complain about the negativity and mock people with genuine concerns.

And yes I have an ego because I know I understand the game's issues far more deeply than you white knights.

[Basteala]

Says the person who necro'd a thread so they could spread negativity by having yet another thread to complain about negativity on and likely relishing all the attention it gives while saying things with no creativity cause you are also just repeating the same 5 things.
But I will take your advice and just not pay you any heed, since we have a handy dandy block feature here.

Honestly the situation is so topical that I thought this was a new thread until I saw you mention this.

[Nero-Voidstails]

some people stay for social purpose or even RP glamour but even if they stay most enjoyed the game for what it was and now the quality of it have just well been bad. encounter became easy nothing challenge you unless you go extreme and savages but when you start those as the game is right now you don't even know half your kits causing problem to others and yourself.


for me what I hate the most of this game is how easy the casual stuff is like easy in arr and HW sure but at stormblood the casual should challenge you and be harder as you go so you learn your new skills sets and you don't feel like a noob if you start extreme or savages.


second things that I dont not dislike but hate is how the community became frail and easily offended the woke mentality have hurt the game to a crazy degree. before when I started you saw player chatting in city State about anything people joking in dungeon or giving advice and even a bit of criticism. now doing most of that will get you reported and suspended. remember that the GM will tell you to treat this like real life but you have all those in real life to and of you get offended well suck it up. other people believes shouldn't be forced on other and the GM follow the ToS that is sure good but to this point I will sadly say it can be and is abusing it getting reported for missgendering is stupid there is female and male model only. I should not be forced to uses pronouns I do not believe in and some player even use mods that break ToS to change genders but those person are sure still in the game! I once got suspended for calling someone jackass because I did my healer job and used rescue but true I am in the wrong right? like what is the point to care or even want something when you will get suspended just for a word? oh true if someone tell you to leave him alone and you do even stop healing you get reported for griefing.

this is how I see the majority of the community as 5 years old playing 14 because anything will get you suspended. Sorry but this is where I draw a line and of you get reported your penalty count is supposed to go down but they will not care they will not even play by theyre own rules.

this community is frail and easily offended and I hate it and some rper will mix real life with RP and get you in trouble no matter what even more ridiculous.

[Hallarem]

Says the person who necro'd a thread so they could spread negativity by having yet another thread to complain about negativity on and likely relishing all the attention it gives while saying things with no creativity cause you are also just repeating the same 5 things.
But I will take your advice and just not pay you any heed, since we have a handy dandy block feature here.

I fed this troll Roe, everyone feeds this troll Roe. This is a person who actually said "Stormblood is a white savior narrative".

If SE actually did something about lingering issues year after year, people wouldn't have to "rehash the same 5 conversations again" try telling Viera and Hrotgar players "Oh stop complaining, you're just rehashing the same old argument of not having hats for years on end! > "