Quote Originally Posted by HyperiusUltima View Post
When it's the only contribution they're giving? This is why Healers are actually the LEAST played job. Because it's BORING to press one button over and over...
Gameplay is a separate issue I have already stated is something that need work, but isn't the reason healers get left out.

I've played even AST/SCH in dungeons and when you're paired with the likes of WAR? You sit there and just DPS because the WAR has all the tools to keep themselves alive without fail. Same could be said of PLD/GNB to an extent. If your healing isn't needed, then healing is not a contributor - which is the whole point of the Role's existence.
So, Warrior, and to a lesser extent PLD and GNB have too much healing it invalidates your role. So it is the environment the healer is trying to be apart of that makes you feel not required. Which is exactly what I have been saying.

Yeah? That's where we're further shoved into this "babysitting" role. Where if something actually does go horribly wrong, we actually get agency. You can talk about this from Dungeons all the way to Savage: Healers are the "In Case of Emergency, Break Glass" equivalent. But if for some reason your DF runs don't have this? Then they're back to the aforementioned above.
So, hypothetical, all healing is gone from all other jobs, healers are the only ones who heal. Aren't you then babysitting everyone else? The role is quite literally look after everyone else's HP. Or, is it only baby sitting if someone makes a mistake, which can still happen in a scenario where you have more healing requirement.

Then tell me how this equates to how Healers should just "Play a DPS or Tank"?
It doesn't, that is the point. Different scenarios with different outcomes.

If people make the decision to make pre-mades, then they will do so and push this, making DF Qs longer because of the "optimization". If anything it's akin to doing the path of least resistance which is a constant for this game whenever it comes to content, no matter how you shake your head at it.
But that hasn't happened. Those who run with no healer probably ran with a healer in the past and changed it up. They weren't queuing into the DF so no change in numbers there. But, as I said, healers are still useful in DF to smooth things out.

Also for the record, you needed an equally skilled SMN to pull of Titan Egi tank back then because if your pet management was off? Titan would eat the dust and you'd be looking closer to a wipe - same for healers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjPiQ2Q_bCQ

SMN with Vit accessories, place him where the tank would normally sit, babysit his HP. Easy. No worries about tank swaps, no worries about the tanks cleaving each other before, during or after the swap, dps/healers know where not to stand etc. It was just all around easier.