"Taking a stand" quest

[Mawlzy]

I'm gonna hold your hands when I say this: a lot of y'all somehow learned absolutely nothing about the game's systems playing through 100 levels and six expansions of gameplay. It amazes me and not in a good way.

That's quite a remarkable conclusion given how many people have had issues with this particularly duty. How do you suppose they got to level 93 without learning anything?

And do you think it's sensible of SE to sell someone an expansion, then provide no mechanism for them to access the majority of it if they get stuck on this quest?

It's clear many skilled players are baffled by this problem, but some choose to spend time trying to help with useful suggestions, whereas others decide it's clever just to flex and be insulting.

Wonderful community.

[Moqi]

And do you think it's sensible of SE to sell someone an expansion, then provide no mechanism for them to access the majority of it if they get stuck on this quest?

How is it any different than someone not beating a story boss in any other game? "Very easy" already exists. Not much more they can do about it.

Also, this is an MMO. Regular skill checks before you head out and do more content with other people is incredibly considerate and should happen more often.

some choose to spend time trying to help with useful suggestions, whereas others decide it's clever just to flex and be insulting.

You can pick any thread of people complaining that something is too hard and you'll find plenty of helpful comments and questions, the majority of which remains either unanswered by OP or met with constant excuses as to why they can't/won't do whatever it is they're being suggested to do.

[Mawlzy]

How is it any different than someone not beating a story boss in any other game? "Very easy" already exists. Not much more they can do about it.

Also, this is an MMO. Regular skill checks before you head out and do more content with other people is incredibly considerate and should happen more often.



You can pick any thread of people complaining that something is too hard and you'll find plenty of helpful comments and questions, the majority of which remain other unanswered by OP or met with constant excuses as to why they can't/won't do whatever it is they're being suggested to do.

It's different from failing to beat a boss in other games because this is, in part, a story-driven MMO. The theme-park/sandbox distinction in FF14 is muddied by all the things to do outside of combat. The fact people talk about "beating the game" in the context of 14 illustrates they don't understand the genre.

I completely agree there should be skill gating of group content and have stated so multiple times. Do it via job quests where you can actually gate specific and necessary skills (and can teach!) rather than some completely irrelevant 4-button duty.

And I explicitly noted some people are genuinely helpful. For the ones who are not, suggest a bot posts "git gud, skill issue" beneath every post in which someone asks for help, then the usual suspects can just like that rather than demonstrating what dreadful people they are.