"Taking a stand" quest

[kav3rnus]

I finally got through the instance thanks to some help from a commenter on a YouTube video!

Therefore, I wanted to post this here since it may help others as it did myself. Also, I'd like to say that advice like 'One key gives us heals, one does damage, and one does AoEs', again is NOT helpful. Most of us know that, but which one does what, and some buttons are more helpful than others as many will notice below in the explanation that a kind-hearted individual gave.

Anyways, onto what I hope will help people. First off, once again I'd like to say this is from a person on YouTube who was kind enough in the comments to explain the mechanics and how they worked best.

1. Before you even start, press the green button. it increases your max HP by 20% and restores it. Use this IMMEDIATELY and EVERY time it comes up, keep an eye out for it.
2. Spam only Tail of the Bra'ax, over and over again because this combo helps raises your HP. If you are too far away from him to do Tail of the Bra'ax, like running away to dodge an AOE, throw in some Beak of the Lautena, it does ranged damage.
3. When he raises his arms and has red flames around him, use Run of Rnoneek to jump him. It is the purple button with the three charges, also get behind him. Make sure to keep using Tail of the Bra'ax to get the combo and keep restoring HP.
4. When all the orbs start to light up, and you see a green one, run toward it, this little area will always be a safe Zone.
5, Dodge all the fire attacks by running around and using your AOE.
6. When he brings up the clones, he is the one with raised hands and on fire. Get behind him and keep spamming Tail of the Bra'ax.
7. Use your limit break EVERY time it comes up and do it IMMEDIATELY. Do this and spam spam spam Tail and use Laweteena pulse, your green button, EVERY time it's available. This is very important!
8. When the pillars come up out of the ground. Run to the one he created first, pay attention to the order they pop up, and run to the next two to decrease the damage taken.
9. When his thugs come in switch to the Turali Judgment instead of Tail. Just spam this over and over and over again. Make sure to use the heal button whenever it comes up.
10. After this is over, there is a timed event, and you will need to spam quickly the O button when it comes up.

Of course I got mollywhopped on Normal. And after about two hours of getting destroyed on Very Easy using this method not even getting the guy to half-health, I just put on Easy for the heck of it and cleared it the first go! I didn't even get down to 25% health and was at the chain stage before I even knew it!

That has got to be some kind of bug.

[LadySeptimus]

I finally got through the instance thanks to some help from a commenter on a YouTube video!

Therefore, I wanted to post this here since it may help others as it did myself. Also, I'd like to say that advice like 'One key gives us heals, one does damage, and one does AoEs', again is NOT helpful. Most of us know that, but which one does what, and some buttons are more helpful than others as many will notice below in the explanation that a kind-hearted individual gave.

Anyways, onto what I hope will help people. First off, once again I'd like to say this is from a person on YouTube who was kind enough in the comments to explain the mechanics and how they worked best.

1. Before you even start, press the green button. it increases your max HP by 20% and restores it. Use this IMMEDIATELY and EVERY time it comes up, keep an eye out for it.
2. Spam only Tail of the Bra'ax, over and over again because this combo helps raises your HP. If you are too far away from him to do Tail of the Bra'ax, like running away to dodge an AOE, throw in some Beak of the Lautena, it does ranged damage.
3. When he raises his arms and has red flames around him, use Run of Rnoneek to jump him. It is the purple button with the three charges, also get behind him. Make sure to keep using Tail of the Bra'ax to get the combo and keep restoring HP.
4. When all the orbs start to light up, and you see a green one, run toward it, this little area will always be a safe Zone.
5, Dodge all the fire attacks by running around and using your AOE.
6. When he brings up the clones, he is the one with raised hands and on fire. Get behind him and keep spamming Tail of the Bra'ax.
7. Use your limit break EVERY time it comes up and do it IMMEDIATELY. Do this and spam spam spam Tail and use Laweteena pulse, your green button, EVERY time it's available. This is very important!
8. When the pillars come up out of the ground. Run to the one he created first, pay attention to the order they pop up, and run to the next two to decrease the damage taken.
9. When his thugs come in switch to the Turali Judgment instead of Tail. Just spam this over and over and over again. Make sure to use the heal button whenever it comes up.
10. After this is over, there is a timed event, and you will need to spam quickly the O button when it comes up.

This was super helpful. I tried on Very Easy mode 6 times, but the timing to dodge the damage by getting to the pillar before he does was too quick. but I did it on easy mode instead and the timings were much more managable!

[Sacae]

You've mentioned "healing potions" several times.

Healing potions have *never* been a viable form of healing in any level of content aside from levels 1-10, maybe. I have no idea what you are even talking about here.

[LibitIncarne]

You've mentioned "healing potions" several times.

Healing potions have *never* been a viable form of healing in any level of content aside from levels 1-10, maybe. I have no idea what you are even talking about here.

A skill that the roleplay character has that's intention is to heal you, and actually heals you.
Notable examples are:

STORMBLOOD
Emissary of the Dawn - Alphinaud is literally a healer
The Will of the Moon - Y'shtola has Cure II to heal herself
A Requiem for Heroes - Hien has Second Wind, and will be healed by Yugiri periodically

SHADOWBRINGERS
Full Steam Ahead - Thancred literally has a HEALING POTION to heal himself
Vows of Virtue, Deeds of Cruelty - Estinien also literally has a HEALING POTION to heal himself with, in phase 2 his main damaging skill heals quite a bit.
Death Unto Dawn - Alisaie has Vercure, Urianger is literally a healer, and G'raha has both Cure II and Medica II despite acting as a Black Mage.

ENDWALKER
A Frosty Reception - Thancred doesn't have a healing skill here due to this being a stealth mission and combat isn't the focus. You have more than enough health to survive a single encounter if you keep attacking, and just wait till you autoheal for the next one.
In from the Cold - You don't have on-demand healing to show how weak you are when you're a standard garlean soldier. You can find a few medkits around the map though.
As the Heavens Burn - Alphinaud is literally a healer, Alisaie has Vercure again.
An Unforseen Bargain - Zero has Bloodbath to heal with by dealing damage, and heals at a more potent rate and with a shorter cooldown than its standard effect.

DAWNTRAIL
Taking a Stand - Wuk Lamat has... a renamed Thrill of Battle with a 60 second cooldown. That's a 20% heal. She can't have Equilibrium (A skill which is literally just a HP infusion like everything mentioned other than Zero's Bloodbath is), because... She just can't, okay?

You clearly haven't been in any deep dungeon, ever. Sustaining/Empyrean/Orthos Potions are literally mandatory to get solo clears on any job unless you are clinically insane and playing Sage specifically in PotD, and even clearing in a party is nearly impossible without them.

[KalaB]

New to the forums, but very familiar with raid content. I have fairly regularly used Healing Potions and even have a few Grade 8 Vitality Tinctures from previous expansion, just in case. Also HQ Hyper Potions are 25% (Max 11,000) HP every 1m7s (67s) which is a fairly sizable chunk if your healers are doing their best impression of a rock.

[Fae_Valwynd]

Let's see if I can be a little bit more helpful, I'm on a controller so bear with me since I've done the instance and can only remember which keys were which.

From Top to left... The top is the normal AOE. The right button is the Tail of the Bra'ax, and the bottom key is the other AOE that is used when the big group of thugs (not the clones) comes out at the very end. The left key is the Green Key (heals).

Now, in the next part of button placement, there is a purple key with three numbers. That is the one you need to use when you're jumping him. The limit break is not visible and only comes up when it's available to use. It is actually underneath the purple key. That's why the user that I got this from said to pay attention to it. It's not visible until it's available.

[Fae_Valwynd]

I'd like to point out that, I understand there is a certain level of ability expected if you've been playing the game for x amount of time. However, some people leave the game for a month, or two, or half a year or more. When they come back, it may not be as intuitive for some as it was before. A lot of gaming is also muscle memory, and knowing where the buttons are and what they do. Also, some people have trouble adapting to new things and/or situations, including playing a different job class.

Furthermore, everybody learns differently. I say this as somebody who was a teacher and did a lot of tutoring for people who had trouble learning the 'conventional' way.

I still say that people need to be more patient with others and understand that not everybody plays the game the same way others do. Yes, there might be people who play Final Fantasy for the story only, and they could care less about the mechanics involved in dungeons or job classes, etc. And that is okay... Other people play the game for the extreme/savage content or PvP only. A friend of mine is a huge raider and runs through the MSQ every single time, while it takes me longer to get through it because I am enjoying the story and the side quests.

How either of us play is inconsequential, it's about enjoying the game and all it has to offer. I love crafting and Gathering, and decorating houses as well. The nice thing about Final Fantasy is that there is something for everyone, and situations like this instance shouldn't bar people from continuing to enjoy the game, that's why I'm in the camp of making Very Easy, so easy you can't die or allowing people to skip it all together. I am even of the mindset that there should be a super-hard mode for those who like more of a challenge. Heck, it might keep my partner from racing ahead of me through the msq! LOL

Anyway, that's my two cents on the whole thing. And to be honest, Square has already been accused of dumbing down the game so it can be more accessible to the masses, what's one or two things more in the greater scheme of things?

[BATKINSON1980]

I have tried this for the last 5 days getting thumped not even a quarter of the way into the fight on any difficulty, some not even getting the boss to 90% health... he hits way too hard. Wuq either needs more health or reduce the bosses damage output somehow. A faster movement speed would help ALOT. She is slower than the WOL's walking speed. I am playing on controller on pc/steam deck and I have never had this much trouble with solo duties, even on very easy.

[PorxiesRCute]

Thanks to this thread and others like it, 8.0 is going to consist entirely of cutscenes with zero combat. Thanks a lot.

[PorxiesRCute]

I have tried this for the last 5 days getting thumped not even a quarter of the way into the fight on any difficulty, some not even getting the boss to 90% health... he hits way too hard. Wuq either needs more health or reduce the bosses damage output somehow. A faster movement speed would help ALOT. She is slower than the WOL's walking speed. I am playing on controller on pc/steam deck and I have never had this much trouble with solo duties, even on very easy.

Use your gap closer???