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  1. #41
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    Azurarok's Avatar
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    Medim Azurarok
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    Siren
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    I honestly enjoy having to do different rotations based on level sync, though I do find ARR~HW being way too barebones for most jobs so I'd like that to be addressed. It's surprising how well off PCT is in that regard, while VPR doesn't feel okay until lv100, especially after gnashing fang's removal.

    Also I mentioned this in the last thread discussing this, but one sorta silly problem I have with skills being permanently learned is that I'll never be able to use Stone and Aero with WHM again and be eternally stuck with light and flower spells, or never be able to hear that satisfying Ding with SMN's Fester.

    Whether it's feasible or not (most likely not) I wish we could just experience each patch's content with the skillsets each job had during their major patch cycle, so ARR content with 2.x skillsets, HW with 3.x, and so on.
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    Lila Pop
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    Faerie
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    Pictomancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Deniza View Post
    I don't use a parser to even know how much damage anyone does in a dungeon or raid, nor do I care about that.
    If there's people who unironically do this I'd be concerned for them.
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    Basteala Thayne
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    Mateus
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    I don't know if they need to do that, but it would be nice to get some abilities earlier--like 10 levels earlier. Not having AoE in early dungeons is rough. BLM is boring as hell without Fire IV. And don't get me started on what leveling Dragoon through ARR feels like.
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    Freja Heleh
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Honestly, let us have full buttons set by 50. It’s ridiculous it now takes 100 levels to get the same amount of buttons pretty much every expansion had by its end originally. It thinned out the previous ones so much it is sometimes barely anything resembling a job. And this keeps on for ages.
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    Basteala Thayne
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    Mateus
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by SongOfTheWind View Post
    Honestly, let us have full buttons set by 50. It’s ridiculous it now takes 100 levels to get the same amount of buttons pretty much every expansion had by its end originally. It thinned out the previous ones so much it is sometimes barely anything resembling a job. And this keeps on for ages.
    VPR is one of the worst offenders, and it's a new job. The job is barebones as hell until like 95 (or whenever the continuation rotation is. All I know is it's somewhere in mid-late DT)
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    Gigileo Hihileo
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    Black Mage Lv 62
    Wouldn't that just trivialize lower level content even more? I mean, would love for this, but the devs have absolutely refused to properly balance older content since Heavensward so people couldn't just cheese through it. The Crystal Tower raids are the biggest example of the devs unwillingness to keep old content from being completely steamrolled.
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    Hashmael Lightswain
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    Soon as you figure out how to balance Benediction to not be overpowered compared to new players without it, we'll take it into consideration.
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    Faorin Shadowclaw
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    Balmung
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Hasrat View Post
    Soon as you figure out how to balance Benediction to not be overpowered compared to new players without it, we'll take it into consideration.
    Astrologian gets Benediction with a shorter cooldown at level 15.
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    Momori Mori
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    Red Mage Lv 91
    Rather than jury rigging a 100 different combinations of balance for every job like some suggest.....why not just.....make lower level jobs less garbage to play?

    Kinda seems like people miss the forest through the trees here.
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    Buttobi Kattobi
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by undull1 View Post
    Rather than jury rigging a 100 different combinations of balance for every job like some suggest.....why not just.....make lower level jobs less garbage to play?

    Kinda seems like people miss the forest through the trees here.
    You are making a vague suggestion of "just make jobs less garbage to play" without offering any method to actually do that. The reality is that almost every solution will result in those 100 different combinations of balance per job.

    If we want a simpler solution it would just be to let people not lose their abilities and adjust the numbers instead. This would require a lot of playtesting and finetuning though, so we are right back to complicated solutions.
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    Last edited by Buttobi; 01-16-2025 at 06:51 PM.

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