Maybe it's time for a casual "strike" if not complete departure.

[Erzaa]

I say only one thing, and the whole thing was more likeley to say it doesnt matter where you do your content if PF or DF thats not the point of being hardcore or not, i can do a dungeon in PF so its not hardcore, that was the point i wanted to prove but one thing :
People are always talking about savage needs perfect coordination etc no, thats actually not even true, savage requires one thing YOU need to know YOUR positionals and whats YOUR mechanic to do, YOU DONT NEED coordination with other players because if YOU do your job and the other one does his job the coordination will happen automatic without thinking about it, so no you dont need perfect coordination you only need to know what YOU have to do

but thats a different thing, i just wanted to point that out

I mean... you're just arguing semantics now.

Coordination: the organization of the different elements of a complex body or activity so as to enable them to work together effectively

If you know what you need to do, but someone else doesn't know what they need to do, or vice versa, will you still clear the content?

I've seen it frequently brought up by raiders in these forums that EX can be cleared in a few hours to a day in PF even with alot of mistakes, so maybe classifying it midcore is fine with me, it's definitely not casual.

The rest of them require discords, PFs or statics, planning a schedule throughout the week to prog, then for reclears etc. That's not a casual playstyle no matter how you choose to frame it.