Why do casual players seem entitled to cosmetic items added in game?

[Voidmage]

Why do those who enjoy hardcore content need incentives? I thought the point was to "beat the game." If success beating or enjoying the fight isn't reward enough in itself and these folks want to flex, give them a title. We could have a contest to come up with some suitable ones.

There is no reason to give raiders nothing though.
They are normal players who play an mmo to get something out of it. No reason to deny them rewards for them.

The hairstyle I agree is kinda too much or at least in the sense that it's the only good looking one in since... Island sanctuary?
Exclusive armor, shiny weapons, titles and mounts though I side with snow and the others that it is completely fine and correct to lock them behind the harder content and frankly almost no one has a problem with it.

Even the Axlotl mount that is brought up here. What was the outcry? Twitter?
I frankly don't remember there being such a big one. A few voices sure like always but not much because frankly there are so many mounts in the game that it didn't really matter.
Hairstyles though are so few and a good junk in a cash shop that it feels far more impacting.

[Saraide]

Why do those who enjoy hardcore content need incentives? I thought the point was to "beat the game." If success beating or enjoying the fight isn't reward enough in itself and these folks want to flex, give them a title. We could have a contest to come up with some suitable ones.

Be reasonable, we're still talking about mmo players here. They have no concept of doing something just for fun.

[Arrius]

There is no reason to give raiders nothing though.
They are normal players who play an mmo to get something out of it. No reason to deny them rewards for them.

The hairstyle I agree is kinda too much or at least in the sense that it's the only good looking one in since... Island sanctuary?
Exclusive armor, shiny weapons, titles and mounts though I side with snow and the others that it is completely fine and correct to lock them behind the harder content and frankly almost no one has a problem with it.

Even the Axlotl mount that is brought up here. What was the outcry? Twitter?
I frankly don't remember there being such a big one. A few voices sure like always but not much because frankly there are so many mounts in the game that it didn't really matter.
Hairstyles though are so few and a good junk in a cash shop that it feels far more impacting.

Given the hair is tradeable, you can buy it off the marketplace anyway.
Even the casual player should be able to amount sufficient gil to eventually purchase it if they are determined.

Or patient until it becomes within their money range. Whatever comes first.

[Mawlzy]

You are basically asking “why are games as a universal concept the way they are”

Games use rewards to drive you towards a particular thing. Like would you be fine if you completed a long game spanning gathering quest in an open world RPG and your reward was a pat on the back. No you expect a reward

I would 100% be fine with not getting a reward, assuming the content was engaging. If the content was not engaging, I wouldn't do it. I'm playing a game, not hoarding digital trinkets.

I recognize I am completely out of step with the community on this one, but the only time in 14 I ran content I wouldn't otherwise have done was three back-to-back runs of Copied Factory to get the boots.

[Mawlzy]

Be reasonable, we're still talking about mmo players here. They have no concept of doing something just for fun.

Apparently an MMO is actually a job and by putting in sufficient hours at that job you get paid in hairstyles.

[Nabril]

So chaotic came out, and I've seen multiple posters on the forums making statements along the line of

"The hairstyle should not have been added in chaotic when SE knows lots of casual players will want it"

Why do some people feel entitled to cosmetic items such as this? I genuinely don't get it. It's obviously there either: as a reward to players doing difficult content, or as a means to encourage people to step out of their comfort zone.
Even so, it's purchasable on the market board, so why is it such a problem?

How can you feel entitled to dictate who deserves what in a video game?

[Eyrilona]

Be reasonable, we're still talking about mmo players here. They have no concept of doing something just for fun.

Um... that's self contradicting. To be MMO players, by definition, we play MMOs. We sit down and spend hours a week interacting with a PC or game console, and when we switch them off at the end of a session, no matter if we just achieved the greatest performance possible in game, the real world isn't going to put some reward item into our hands for that. So if we'd never do anything for fun, why is anyone doing that?

[BigCheez]

How can you feel entitled to dictate who deserves what in a video game?

The people who do the thing deserve the reward for the thing. All things should offer rewards. It's really that simple.

[MrJPtheAssassin]

im not sure about this. the criterion dungeon rewards went from 50>30>20>10 mil and i have not seen them climb. that could be because criterion is more accessible but if CODCAR can be unsynced then ppl will unsync the rewards next expansion

Honestly, I don't even know what could be put on the MB from Crit duns...most of the rewards were meh to begin with I feel. All I know the only thing I wanted from Crit duns was the glowy versions of the tombstone weapons in the last one that came out and I know you cant buy that. As for CODCAR being unsync, we honestly don't know what the devs plans for the long term for this type of fight and Im not going to assume they will make it super easy or not to farm in the future.

Given the hair is tradeable, you can buy it off the marketplace anyway.
Even the casual player should be able to amount sufficient gil to eventually purchase it if they are determined.

Or patient until it becomes within their money range. Whatever comes first.

That may be true but some of us are thinking about the future not the right now. Sure the hair can be gotten from the MB and there are probably a bunch of them where the price is being driven down BUT what about 6 months to a year from now? I can tell you that this fight doesn't have what it takes to last that long esp with how its reward system works. One reason you see a lot of hair on the MB is that the fight is new and ppl getting that first-time bonus. This means that grinding the currently to buy the hair only takes few clears but after the first timer is dried up and very few of them are left you looking at around 46 clears to just buy the hair, assuming you are not lucky and don't have it drop or win the roll on it. Im personally thinking about newer plays who come into the game 6 months to a year from now. They may see this hair and really want it but find there very few on the MB and the ones that are up on there are in the range of 50-100 mil. They try to run CODCAR but find ppl just don't run it anymore and it's a chore to even get a party together(since it requires 24 ppl) to teach them the fight and clear it 46 times. Hairstyles are very important since the character creator sucks in ff14, you have very few options in making your character and hair is one thing you have options for. On top of that, it's so rare for us to get a really nice hairstyle so having it locked in a 24 raid that is around savage levels and also has a short shelf life sucks and I don't agree with it at all. If this fight needed another reward on top of the 2 mounts, 730 gear(BiS), and minion then add something else maybe a 3rd mount or a glowy version of the tombstone weapon(like they did for the last crit dun) but not a hairstyle.

[BrokenFantasy]

The people who do the thing deserve the reward for the thing. All things should offer rewards. It's really that simple.

Character customization options should not be tied to difficult content. It's really that simple.